i865 PE chipset support?

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Araya666

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Hey, I just wanted to know if a i865 PE chipset will support a core 2 duo processor.


I'm getting a new desktop form my mom's bf, well...it's not exactly NEW, and I want to switch out the Intel Pentium 4 processor in the computer, for better performance. It has an Asus AI series p4p800 motherboard.


If it doesn't support that processor, what other processors could I get instead? I'm really looking for a dual core.
 
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Araya666

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Why would I need hyperthreading if the processor I just showed you is dual core?

Edit:

Nevermind. I'm really confused about this whole thing, and I'm not even sure if spending more than $100 on a new processor's gonna be worth it.
 
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Ah -- I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. First, you should know that a dual core CPU is not the same as a Core2 Duo CPU, and second, your chipset may not even support that CPU.

It's Intel's chipset and CPU. Use the links I gave you to find the processors they say will work with it.

For the money Newegg wants for that CPU, you may want to consider looking for a deal on a CPU and motherboard combo like one of these at around $140 and a couple of 1 GB sticks of DDR2 667 MHz RAM for $2.99, each after rebate. That would be a faster setup, and you could probably sell your current CPU and board for enough to cover a good part of the price. :)
 
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Araya666

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Yeah, I'm really not going to deal with that, haha. I'd have to buy a new video card unless the new motherboard supported AGP, and I don't even have that much money laying around.

 
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Araya666

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Ahh, I already figured out what I'm going to do!

I'm getting a 3.6GHz Intel P4, and since it's oem I'm getting a ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler, Possibly 2 1 gb Kingston RAM sticks (pricey, but reliable), and a SAPPHIRE 100175L Radeon X1650PRO 512MB since I'm a Valve whore, haha.

Whatcha guys think?
 
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Wait, you're getting a new AGP video card and an expensive P4 space heater rather than doing a whole system upgrade?

I think you're better off going the Gigabyte DS3L ($92) + c2d 2160 ($66) + PCIe 7600GT ($65 AR) route instead. Faster in every way, cooler, less power suck. Cheaper and upgradeable too.

 
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nefariouscaine

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for about the price of what you're paying for the kingston sticks alone you can pay for a new cpu/mobo - the only thing you're not replacing is the motherboard and thats not a reason to stick to lower performance

i went from overclocked AMD 939 gear - which was alot faster than comparable P4's to C2D and its a huge jump in performance - even if you don't want to overclock
Originally posted by: v8envy
Wait, you're getting a new AGP video card and an expensive P4 space heater rather than doing a whole system upgrade?

I think you're better off going the Gigabyte DS3L ($92) + c2d 2160 ($66) + PCIe 7600GT ($65 AR) route instead. Faster in every way, cooler, less power suck. Cheaper and upgradeable too.
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add a $50 2 gig kit of ddr2 and you're all set
 
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Araya666

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I kinda decided not to get the kingston sticks a while ago. And I switched the Radeon to a Geforce 7600.


And I don't know what these are: Gigabyte DS3L ($92) + c2d 2160 ($66) (edit: ahh my bad, I do hahaha.)


I don't even have the ability to put a computer together. I know just enough about computers to get by.


 
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nefariouscaine

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Originally posted by: Araya666
I kinda decided not to get the kingston sticks a while ago. And I switched the Radeon to a Geforce 7600.


And I don't know what these are: Gigabyte DS3L ($92) + c2d 2160 ($66) (edit: ahh my bad, I do hahaha.)


I don't even have the ability to put a computer together. I know just enough about computers to get by.
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If you can change out a video card you know all that you need :p

trust me - if you take your time and ask questions you'd be just fine, especially if you had a "back up " pc to get online with
 
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There are 865PE boards that support a C2D. The ASrock Conroe865PE and the Gigabyte GA-I865GME-775-RH rev 2.0. I own both of them.

Most popular 865PE boards from back in the day do not support a C2D though, because Intel changed a few things in the socket (added PECI), and changed the VRM spec slightly (I think).
 
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Araya666

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Well, I pretty much decided on what I want.


I'm looking for a mobo that supports AMD for around $100, my friend is helping me out on that. I'm getting a pci-e 7600, and an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ 2.8GHz processor, maybe even the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz 2 if I have the money.
 
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Originally posted by: Araya666

I don't even have the ability to put a computer together. I know just enough about computers to get by.
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Aww... Come on. You can do it. The only tool you need to build a machine is a 1/4" medium phillips screwdriver, and the only real mechanical knowledge you need is to know which end is the handle. :thumbsup:

Today's systems only fit together one way... the right way, and beyond the assembly instructions in the manuals that come with your components, you can find any other info you need on these forums or some of the online assembly guides.

Give it a try. After you've gotten beyond the rush of building your first system, you can glow in the amazement of your friends and family who haven't figured out how easy it is.

Don't worry. We won't give away your secret. :cool:
 
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Well, VirtualLarry has blown the top of my head off. An 865PE motherboard? That SUPPORTS C2D? Huh?

My experience with Springdale was limited to socket-478. I DID think I saw something that came in the LGA-775 flavor.

The motherboard-hotdogs at CPUs & OverClocking shoud take heed: chipsets and motherboards can have an unanticipated life-cycle. And that supports my approach of taking several months to monitor a potential chipset and board model before you buy.

Unless you're in a hurry . . . . of course . . .
 
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Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Well, VirtualLarry has blown the top of my head off. An 865PE motherboard? That SUPPORTS C2D? Huh?

My experience with Springdale was limited to socket-478. I DID think I saw something that came in the LGA-775 flavor.

The motherboard-hotdogs at CPUs & OverClocking shoud take heed: chipsets and motherboards can have an unanticipated life-cycle. And that supports my approach of taking several months to monitor a potential chipset and board model before you buy.

Unless you're in a hurry . . . . of course . . .
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Yep, I've got one too, but since they don't sell them in the USA, I had to get mine thru eBay UK.

Here is the product page.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overv...?Model=ConRoe865PE&s=n

Newegg used to carry some of the Gigabyte models that were also C2D compatible but all these boards have limitations, among them limited FSB. You need a high multi processor to get any kind of clocks.

 
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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: ReefaMadness
Yep, I've got one too, but since they don't sell them in the USA, I had to get mine thru eBay UK.

Here is the product page.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overv...?Model=ConRoe865PE&s=n
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The bastards at ASrock still haven't updated the BIOS for that mobo to be able to handle M0-stepping chips, of which nearly all are nowadays.
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Actually, they did...to me :)

I sent them (AsRock) an email back in July of '07 asking if they were going to release a new BIOS anytime and they sent me a beta, v1.71 with M0 & G0 support.


...and then I forwarded to these guys (PC-Treiber) and it has been hosted by them for quite a while now.

This is a thread that I started over there which includes a link to the hosted BIOS:

http://www.pc-treiber.net/thread.php?threadid=5798

Link to BIOS page:

http://www.pc-treiber.net/download_kategorie_26.html


All you had to do was ask. :)



 
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