i7-970 Gulftown anyone? ;)

aigomorla

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Guys wait a few weeks.

Its the typical overprices vendors does on new cpu's.

It will drop.
 

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Would rather pay $100 more for the unlocked multiplier.

The good thing is, the box looks so wide that I suspect there's a heatpipe cooler in there.
 

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Heh, can't even find it on ark.intel.com.
 

aigomorla

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the sheets i saw was suposed to be 700-800 / lot

it should be at least 200 cheaper then a 980.

899 is a absolute joke of a price.

u can get xeon hexcores for tthat price.. that iis what newegg is doing.

pricing them @ xeon levels..
 
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Honestly it's way overpriced.

You could roughly ballpark what it should cost by looking at is as 3 core i5-650 processors combined, which would set you back around $550, including the seperate dies containing graphics. Granted the yield might not be as high, so it could be a bit more than that, but certainly not $900.
 
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that's not a very good way to look at it.

A better way to look at it is to view it as the 2nd best cpu out there. #1 is $999, has an unlocked multiplier, and is slightly faster. the question is, how much less is this one worth? to me, $500 is much more reasonable, but they can and will charge whatever the market will bear in the absence of anything resembling competition from amd. realistically I think that it will end up closer to $800 after prices stabilize.
 

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Hmm, from what I'm finding, it looks like the suggested price is actually supposed to be $885 =/.
 

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that's not a very good way to look at it.

A better way to look at it is to view it as the 2nd best cpu out there. #1 is $999, has an unlocked multiplier, and is slightly faster. the question is, how much less is this one worth? to me, $500 is much more reasonable, but they can and will charge whatever the market will bear in the absence of anything resembling competition from amd. realistically I think that it will end up closer to $800 after prices stabilize.
Oh I know the price is set by market forces, I'm just saying it has a much higher profit margin than lower end CPUs, and I would not personally be willing to pay that premium.
 

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Just to clarify I get why the i7-980X costs over $1000, it is afterall the absolute best money can buy. But I think the price difference between the i7-980X and the i7-970 should be much larger.

I'd say the i7-970 should cost roughly 2/3rds of what the i7-980X does, which would be $700 rather than $900.
 
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If anyone was worried that the 970 would be positioned in the same price segment as the 1090T, they can stop worrying now.
 
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If anyone was worried that the 970 would be positioned in the same price segment as the 1090T, they can stop worrying now.
It wouldn't make sense anyway. AMD's hex cores are roughly equivalent to Intel's quad cores. The 1090 is fanboy priced, so I'll just ignore it. The 1055 hex core is the real price at $200. Intel's $200 processor (looking at newegg) is the i5 750. That does sound about right (media creation benchmark).

The price will not drop. AMD does not have any processor capable of competing against the i7 970, so you can expect it to stay up there in the $500-1000 range.
 
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The price will not drop. AMD does not have any processor capable of competing against the i7 970, so you can expect it to stay up there in the $500-1000 range.
Yea and I noticed Intel doesn't drop prices anymore. All they do when they introduce new SKUs, they just keep the pricing same, making the older one obsolete.
 
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It wouldn't make sense anyway. AMD's hex cores are roughly equivalent to Intel's quad cores. The 1090 is fanboy priced, so I'll just ignore it. The 1055 hex core is the real price at $200. Intel's $200 processor (looking at newegg) is the i5 750. That does sound about right (media creation benchmark).
Yeah, but that didn't stop some people from saying (either in jest or not) that, if Intel released a Gulftown at around the 1090T price point, that it would kill AMD. And it would kill their Thuban sales.

The x6 was a fairly significant strike at Intel's quads (well, sort of), so there's been speculation about what Intel's response to the x6 would be. Thus far there really hasn't been one.

The price will not drop. AMD does not have any processor capable of competing against the i7 970, so you can expect it to stay up there in the $500-1000 range.
I would be shocked if it hit $500 before Sandy Bridge launches.

Yea and I noticed Intel doesn't drop prices anymore. All they do when they introduce new SKUs, they just keep the pricing same, making the older one obsolete.
Indeed they do. They didn't even really cut prices to deal with Thuban. I guess they didn't have to.
 
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Hmm...GTX480 in SLI or a Core i7-970? Tough choice.

Looks like affordable 6-core Gulftowns on socket 1366 were a pipe-dream.
 
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Hmm...GTX480 in SLI or a Core i7-970? Tough choice.

Looks like affordable 6-core Gulftowns on socket 1366 were a pipe-dream.
The SLI would be a lot faster in games. No contest at all.

Unless you encode a lot or play two games at once, there is no point to a hex core.

Edit: My vote is no in all Intel hex cores. Too pricey for infinitesimal real life performance gains.
 
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Yea and I noticed Intel doesn't drop prices anymore. All they do when they introduce new SKUs, they just keep the pricing same, making the older one obsolete.
They've been doing that for many, many years.
All you need to know when an Intel price drop comes is that whatever you are looking at will drop a price bracket, the second lowest end product will remain the same price, and the lowest product will be EOL'ed. You have two products at the lowest price with one being phased out, everything has shifted down one, and a new top is out.
Same way every price drop for a good few years.
 

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They've been doing that for many, many years.
All you need to know when an Intel price drop comes is that whatever you are looking at will drop a price bracket, the second lowest end product will remain the same price, and the lowest product will be EOL'ed. You have two products at the lowest price with one being phased out, everything has shifted down one, and a new top is out.
Same way every price drop for a good few years.
Well AMD has been doing something similar with AthlonII cpus recently(maybe more but I don't follow prices that closely). They just introduced a higher clocked version at the top price and dropped the rest of the lineup down one spot at the same prices(basically you get 100MHz more at the same price).
 

aigomorla

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have you heard anything recently about 32nm S1366 quad cores?
u can already get them on the Xeon side.

Hmm, from what I'm finding, it looks like the suggested price is actually supposed to be $885 =/.
Means intel went with 800 per lot, instead of the 700 per lot, or the cpu vendors are trying to milk 200 dollars off ya.

I think its the later then the former.
 
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u can already get them on the Xeon side.



Means intel went with 800 per lot, instead of the 700 per lot, or the cpu vendors are trying to milk 200 dollars off ya.

I think its the later then the former.
The xeon quads aside from the E5620 are priced out of the market. (for value-conscious consumers)
 

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