i7 870 Video Conversion

Virgorising

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Hi,

Can't find any averages online...... is between 276 and 350 average fps conversion speed good for this chip?

I know how much seriously faster it is than it was with my PD Presler (3.40) chip, I see bar graph benchmarks in comparison with other chips, but that's all I know.

Thanks!

PS: also, does RAM impact conversion speed? I have 8GBs of DDR3.
 
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Mr. Pedantic

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Hi,

Can't find any averages online...... is between 276 and 350 average fps conversion speed good for this chip?

I know how much seriously faster it is than it was with my PD Presler (3.40) chip, I see bar graph benchmarks in comparison with other chips, but that's all I know.

Thanks!

PS: also, does RAM impact conversion speed? I have 8GBs of DDR3.

It depends a lot on the settings you use and what you use to do the video conversion. For a super-low res video, 350fps might be low. For a blu-ray conversion, you might be lucky to get 50fps.

AFAIK RAM speed doesn't matter so much as RAM size.
 

Virgorising

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It depends a lot on the settings you use and what you use to do the video conversion. For a super-low res video, 350fps might be low. For a blu-ray conversion, you might be lucky to get 50fps.

AFAIK RAM speed doesn't matter so much as RAM size.

O! I did not know those elements impacted!

I don do blu-ray. I use VSO ConvertX. I like to rip my DVDs and make copies, so that when people stop by and borrow.....I don't have to worry about getting things back, which used to be an issue. But nothing low res involved here.

Again, obviously given conversion is key in CPU benchmarks, a faster chip would convert, well, faster. That's a given. I was interested in if what I am getting reflects the potential of my chip normally.

Now, re RAM impacting, as I shared, since I chose to run W7 64-bit, I upgraded the RAM to 8 GBs. I will never need the 16 this board maxes out at.

When you say "settings," can U pls be more specific?
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Edit: Below is mainly re cost vs performance.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/cpu/Intel_Core_i7-870_Processor/review
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Edit: Below, a more conventional report. But I have never found any listing video conversion specifics.
http://www.cpu-world.com/benchmarks/Intel/Core_i7-870.html
 
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Virgorising

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Addenda:

First, when I expand the options re individual benchmarks, I am not sure which to choose, pls see below.

If I did know which to choose, I would simply end up again, getting a sense of this chip's capabilities in this VERSUS that of other chips. But that is not the info I am looking for.

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Virgorising

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I now think there is no way, short of some Intel human familiar with just this chip, I can know if what I am getting re conversion is normal for the thing.

I think I should just assume it is. Esp given how wonderfully, off the chain faster it is than what it was in my now backup desktop. Hard to imagine I would ever need faster.
 

Virgorising

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I designed that chip :thumbsup:
Its fine :thumbsup:
Enjoy your chip :thumbsup:


HOW MUCH DO I LUV THIS?:wub:

Words can not say!!

Plus, I just pinged the Lynnfield re this, it has a special sensor....and it smiled and winked and was like "Yes! Thas my dad!"!:biggrin:

(That did raise my thermals briefly, but it was SO worth it!)
 

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What application are you converting in?

I see no name posted just fps values are we too assume its handbrake?

If it is this application there is a fairly long thread on this forum with Handbrake numbers posted for different processors.
 

Virgorising

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What application are you converting in?

I see no name posted just fps values are we too assume its handbrake?

If it is this application there is a fairly long thread on this forum with Handbrake numbers posted for different processors.


Sorry! I should have said. I use VSO ConvertX, never used anything else. I like it a lot, it has never failed me.

Edit: I also luv that it speaks.():) I am both deep.....and SHALLOW.:sneaky:
 
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Virgorising

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You're wanting a comparison, and Handbrake is the tool of choice around here for Conversion & benchmarking. The following thread will let you see how your chip does vs the rest of the members that posted in that thread. Just follow instructions carefully from the OP.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2327881&highlight=benchmark+handbrake


Thanks, Burpo, but I'm afraid I did not make things clear in my initial post: I knew the comparative benchmarks before I chose to bid on the system.

What I wanted to know, but now feel OK about, was if the fps I am getting represent the full potential of this individual chip in encoding.....not compared to other chips.

I pasted links I used before even bidding re comparative benchmarks. Were I not pleased with those, esp given what I determined would be my max bid system, I would not have bid at all.

But for sure, I will now check out Handbrake!!!:biggrin:
 

Burpo

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I think your chip would do around 180-200FPS using the Handbrake version posted and the video posted to convert, but that's just a guess based on my Hex core's 263FPS
 

Virgorising

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I think your chip would do around 180-200FPS using the Handbrake version posted and the video posted to convert, but that's just a guess based on my Hex core's 263FPS


Hi again!!!!

OK I just got this Handbrake thingy for 64-bit.....I see it is totally bare bones, hate the interface/options/configurability given what I am used to (remember I am shallow!).... but it is also free unlike my beloved VSO, started a test conversion and at the bottom average fps were around 261.

I stopped it the minute I saw the numbers, cause they appear to be the same or not even as good as when I use my VSO.

SO, BURPO! Was yr guess, happily not what my Lynnfield is doing in this?

It was!!!!:biggrin::thumbsup:
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Burpo

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It will hit peaks that high, but you have to let it run all the way thru and then look at the text file of the final output average. You must follow the instructions carefully.. Output file should look like this..
This is an exceprt from the text file (not the whole thing) with the key information.

HandBrake 0.9.9.5530 - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5639 @ 2.13GHz
Ram: 12279 MB, Screen: 1920x1080

(look for this section in the text file)

Using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 3.0
[13:03:34] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[13:03:34] work: average encoding speed for job is 261.689819 fps
 
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Virgorising

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It will hit peaks that high, but you have to let it run all the way thru and then look at the text file of the final output average. You must follow the instructions carefully


O! I was in a hurry as usual so stopped it when I saw the numbers on the bottom, cause VSO remains consistent in speed during conversion with this chip, and what I saw was low end identical to VSO. Let me go back now and do it over.

Appears this Handbrake thingy does not also format and burn, which VSO does. It also cleans yr kitchen.():)

I will return.
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PS: I also do not like U just can't just drag and drop files into the GUI as U do with VSO, I KNOW....this one is free.
 
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Virgorising

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I know, I AM going to wait until it's finished, but this time, it's a little lower than first time.

I am going to convert same small file, my GF gave me, using VSO and see the difference if any.

OK it finished, and I do not see any report numbers. What am I missing? Should I have just watched it go and monitored the fps until the end?

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Virgorising

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K.....did not wait for it to finish it, but in VSO it's even slower, like little over 200 fps.

Not sure why, but I have been getting way faster than these.

I need to try another file.
 

Burpo

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Again frames per second are irrelevant UNLESS you have a specific file (same used for all members) and a specific output resolution (same used by all members). I can convert an MP4 of 1280x720 to Apple H264 1280X720 at 380fps, so the only real way to see how your chip stacks up is follow instructions carefully and use the same files & resolutions as everyone else. That's testing the chip.
 

Virgorising

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Again frames per second are irrelevant UNLESS you have a specific file (same used for all members) and a specific output resolution (same used by all members). I can convert an MP4 of 1280x720 to Apple H264 1280X720 at 380fps, so the only real way to see how your chip stacks up is follow instructions carefully and use the same files & resolutions as everyone else. That's testing the chip.


Sigh. I am getting this is more complex than I realized with many variables, and I now get there is a standard to test.

I just now chose special huge file from college, 90 mins long, one of the few I keep in my HDDs......and it went fast in VSO, always over 300, I have never seen my speeds vary that much during a conversion and just thought that was normal.

Pls see below.

I think I should just go on being thrilled at how much faster this is in this system than it was in my now backup desktop, and assume the speed reflects the potential of this individual chip normally. So much faster than my Presler chip!

Handbrake is very interesting. But the Germans truly do write amazing software, tho mostly not free.

Again, Burpo, I know (see links above) exaclty how this Lynnfield compares wiith other chips in this endeavor, i knew going it. I was interested in just if my chip is reaching it's potential in video conversion.

I sincerely appreciate all yr help!:)

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Burpo

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Ok, FPS means nothing without specifics. if you convert a file that is 640X480 to 720X480 it's going to go very quickly.
If you convert a file that's 720x480 to HD 1280x720 (upscaling) that's going to go much slower. I just did a file like what I just described. The upscaling went at 68fps, while the other went at 180+fps.. You see? It's all in what you're converting. Maybe the big files you're doing are at 720x480 & converting them to a different type file with same resolution will go extremely fast without working the CPU much.

If you're traveling 1 mile on a bicycle all down hill, you're not going to work much and go really fast. Try going uphill 1 mile and you're going to work much harder and go much slower.. Kinda the same principal
 
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Virgorising

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Below is the most I can hone selections in the online benchmarks. I have the i7 870, but an Intel board and 8GBs of DDR3 not 2, almost identical card tho.

Going out now, tomorrow I will try a more proper test employing the standard file!

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Virgorising

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If you're traveling 1 mile on a bicycle all down hill, you're not going to work much and go really fast. Try going uphill 1 mile and you're going to work much harder and go much slower.. Kinda the same principal

:thumbsup:

I see why the test must be so standardized! And no wonder there are so many options n the drop down menu re benchmarks online! I just chose the most logical one.