i7-860 hit 89 degrees - Should I worry?

[ctbrown]

I'm in the process of building a new system and one of the cables got caught in the stock Intel fan and the i7-860 hit 89 C causing thermal shut-down. I didn't realize at first what was going on and the CPU went though a number of thermal shutdowns while I was troubleshooting.

Big question is should I worry about the CPU being damaged?

I still haven't finished installing all of the components, nor i have I installed an OS yet. So I really can't do any sort of stress testing yet to see if the chip is ok. I'm getting pretty close to the end of the 30 day period where I can return the chip to the store without having to go through Intel, so I need to decide whether or not to return it.

FYI- this was on a Gigabytye GA-P55M-UD2 board with only RAM and GPU installed

Thanks

 

[jtisgeek]

Should be fine thermal shutdown should have saved it. I think the major damage is done at 100c.

 

[Athadeus]

I had a friend build a computer and he somehow missed removing a sticker (with 'Remove this before installing' written all over it no less) from the top of the CPU before installing the HSF. He had it shutdown on him a bunch of times before he figured it out, but it ran fine for at least a few years (I think he sold it still working).

 

[yh125d]

I don't think you really have anything to worry about. Just take a close look at the CPU and socket for scorch marks >.>

 

[MisterDonut]

You should only worry if it hits => 100c. 89c is high, yeah, but throttling saved it. Get an aftermarket if you're worried about temps. Hyper 212+ is good for its price.

 

[RussianSensation]

The chip should be perfectly fine! It's a protection mechanism on the motherboard most likely that activated the shut down, not the processor.

AN AFTERMARKET cooler on a Core i7 860 is a MUST!

 

[Ubanum]

[Quote = MisterDonut; 29851362] Ty by měly pouze znepokojovat, pokud se to dostane => 100c. 89c je vysoká, jo, ale škrcení uložení. Získejte aftermarket Pokud máte obavy o Temps. Hyper 212 + je dobré pro jeho cenu. [/ Quote]

those 89 Celsius is really with the Hyper 212 is not much better, we need to invest in better refrigeration systems, eg: Scytche Ninja. Mugen Noctua number or ... or it is not so cooler, but maybe bad chladis installed with a trap? Rather the criteria reen

 

[Schmide]

Unless you smell something, you should be fine.

 

[ShawnD1]

How in the world does it pass prime or linpack testing? Regardless of whatever the voltage is, I've never seen a processor pass testing above 70C. They always start having errors.

 

[VirtualLarry]

How in the world does it pass prime or linpack testing? Regardless of whatever the voltage is, I've never seen a processor pass testing above 70C. They always start having errors.

Strange, I've used Core2 family CPUs at up to 85-89C, and they still run properly, and do not throw errors.

 

[n7]

How in the world does it pass prime or linpack testing? Regardless of whatever the voltage is, I've never seen a processor pass testing above 70C. They always start having errors.

ORLY?

That would be incorrect.
I can do well over 70c stably w/ my own, as well as countless OEMs i see @ work all the time.

 

[ShawnD1]

I can do well over 70c stably w/ my own, as well as countless OEMs i see @ work all the time.

Why would an OEM be 70C? Even that energy pig Phenom 9600 only runs at 50-60C under full linpack testing at stock settings.

 

[solofly]

I don't think I have ever used a stock factory cooler in all the years I've been doing this...

 

[MisterDonut]

[Quote = MisterDonut; 29851362] Ty by měly pouze znepokojovat, pokud se to dostane => 100c. 89c je vysoká, jo, ale škrcení uložení. Získejte aftermarket Pokud máte obavy o Temps. Hyper 212 + je dobré pro jeho cenu. [/ Quote]

those 89 Celsius is really with the Hyper 212 is not much better, we need to invest in better refrigeration systems, eg: Scytche Ninja. Mugen Noctua number or ... or it is not so cooler, but maybe bad chladis installed with a trap? Rather the criteria reen

OP did not mention overclocking (or if he did, I did not see it). You don't need to drop $40-50 bucks on a cooler if $22 will do it just fine. Besides, the 89c resulted from cables stopping the stock fan from working. Even if the fan on a Hyper 212+ was stopped, I'm pretty sure the passive tower can hold its own.

 

[dpearson]

Sweet Jesus, I thought 55C was high. I usually don't let my temps get above 45C. Though I guess I'm not as daring/confident in my processor as you people.

 

[taltamir]

the whole purpose of thermal shutdown is to prevent damage to your CPU in cases like that. sounds to me like it worked as intended, and as such there shouldn't be any damage to your CPU.

you can do some stability testing just to be sure. I recommend this: http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/

 

[Tsavo]

I had a P4 hit 120 once. I had to take it in and have its ALU replaced...not cheap.

New ALU was faster, and the techs lubed up all the transistors, so no big deal.

 

[taltamir]

I had a P4 hit 120 once. I had to take it in and have its ALU replaced...not cheap.

New ALU was faster, and the techs lubed up all the transistors, so no big deal.

snort... funny

 

[Tsavo]

That's not as bad as the time I went in for a sex change operation. The doctor asked if I wanted to be a man or a woman.

 

[taltamir]

That's not as bad as the time I went in for a sex change operation. The doctor asked if I wanted to be a man or a woman.

how insulting. A Qqlotgh would never debate him/her/it-self by assuming a male or female form... naturally you wanted to change from Qlllogth to Sgggath, right?

 

[YBS1]

How in the world does it pass prime or linpack testing? Regardless of whatever the voltage is, I've never seen a processor pass testing above 70C. They always start having errors.

My Xeon W3520 was passing in the mid 90's. Even under water now this chip runs very hot compared to most but it clocks to the moon (over 4.4ghz but I've never bothered to pin down just how far it will go). I'm thinking either one of two things are going on, it's just a high leakage/high clocking chip or somehow the temperature sensors are not accurate on it. Now, I'm sure part of the reason for temps I'm getting are settings. I always leave hyperthreading enabled and I'm running Mushkin Redline modules with very tight timings (6-7-6-18@1600mhz) both of which reportedly contribute to high temps.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I've seen my i7 860 reach 77c during heavy CPU load, no problems at all

Here's my temps

Idle (with room) AC on - 26c

Idle AC off - 30c

Load AC on - 70c

Load AC off - 77c

My Phenom is in another room, usually with AC off

Idle - 33

Load - 54

 

[0roo0roo]

[Quote = MisterDonut; 29851362] Ty by měly pouze znepokojovat, pokud se to dostane => 100c. 89c je vysoká, jo, ale škrcení uložení. Získejte aftermarket Pokud máte obavy o Temps. Hyper 212 + je dobré pro jeho cenu. [/ Quote]

those 89 Celsius is really with the Hyper 212 is not much better, we need to invest in better refrigeration systems, eg: Scytche Ninja. Mugen Noctua number or ... or it is not so cooler, but maybe bad chladis installed with a trap? Rather the criteria reen

wat???

 

[n7]

Why would an OEM be 70C? Even that energy pig Phenom 9600 only runs at 50-60C under full linpack testing at stock settings.

Many Intel quads easily reach 70C+ w/ the stock or alternative barely adequate cooling that HP/Acer/Dell/Gateway/etc use.

Notebook CPUs are often worse...

Not sure where you got the idea 70C was the highest you can stably run a CPU, but that's not how it works.

 

[ShawnD1]

Not sure where you got the idea 70C was the highest you can stably run a CPU, but that's not how it works.

Probably the fact that I've never once seen it. The following processors do not work past 70C and will fail prime95 immediately:
E6600
Athlon X4 620
Phenom X4 9600
E2140
Pentium4c 2.4GHz

Some laptops fail prime95 at stock settings. I'm typing this on a 1.6GHz Celeron laptop (Acer) that has failed the small FFT test a few times, reaching about 75C at its peak. For that reason, I don't use this laptop for anything more important than browsing the internet.