i7-3770k or i7-3820?

[Ketchup]

3770K and delid it. No contest.

Um, no. Delidding will cancel your warranty at the very least, and kill your chip at the very most. In fact, Soulkeeper lost his chip a couple weeks ago doing this. Never delid a chip your are actually planning on using.

 

[JimPhreak]

Um, no. Delidding will cancel your warranty at the very least, and kill your chip at the very most. In fact, Soulkeeper lost his chip a couple weeks ago doing this. Never delid a chip your are actually planning on using.

Ummm, every single IB chip I've owned has been delidded and I use them all. I guess if you are really a stickler for keeping your warranty that I get. However if you know what you're doing and are careful, you can delid your CPU in less than a half hour with no damage what-so-ever. I've delidded 3 in the past 2 weeks and all with no issues what-so-ever. All 3 run 24/7.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Um, no. Delidding will cancel your warranty at the very least, and kill your chip at the very most. In fact, Soulkeeper lost his chip a couple weeks ago doing this. Never delid a chip your are actually planning on using.

IDC also lost his 3770K.

 

[Ketchup]

IDC also lost his 3770K.

That's right, almost forgot about that one.

 

[Ketchup]

Ummm, every single IB chip I've owned has been delidded and I use them all. I guess if you are really a stickler for keeping your warranty that I get. However if you know what you're doing and are careful, you can delid your CPU in less than a half hour with no damage what-so-ever. I've delidded 3 in the past 2 weeks and all with no issues what-so-ever. All 3 run 24/7.

Good for you. Do you have a webpage to help others out with that (or just a thread)? I am sure a lot of folks around here would appreciate it.

 

[JimPhreak]

Good for you. Do you have a webpage to help others out with that (or just a thread)? I am sure a lot of folks around here would appreciate it.

Everything you need to know could be found in this thread here.

 

[Ketchup]

Everything you need to know could be found in this thread here.

Thanks. BTW, Booch, what else can we do to help with your decision?

 

[Booch]

thanks for asking

I think I've got everything covered now... I'm looking at a 3770k with Asetek 510LC for the cooler, a 256 GB SSD (TBA), 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 (dual channel), a GeForce 660Ti (brand TBA), all in an NZXT H2 case (for sound control).

I suppose the only other question I have is about the 4000-series processors and 700-series GPUs... It's my understanding that Intel and nVidia will put out another generation in the next few months... will they be really significant improvements?

 

[JimPhreak]

thanks for asking

I think I've got everything covered now... I'm looking at a 3770k with Asetek 510LC for the cooler, a 256 GB SSD (TBA), 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 (dual channel), a GeForce 660Ti (brand TBA), all in an NZXT H2 case (for sound control).

I suppose the only other question I have is about the 4000-series processors and 700-series GPUs... It's my understanding that Intel and nVidia will put out another generation in the next few months... will they be really significant improvements?

If you're looking for a good clocking 3770K I'll be putting mine up for sale shortly. Best clocking IB I've seen so far. I only game so I just don't need the power. It does 4.8 @1.25vcore and 5.0@1.36vcore.

 

[Ketchup]

thanks for asking I suppose the only other question I have is about the 4000-series processors and 700-series GPUs... It's my understanding that Intel and nVidia will put out another generation in the next few months... will they be really significant improvements?

Nvidia I am not too sure. They "recently released" some cards off the same platform they started back in March, so I don't know if that means they are trying to stretch the release times or make them appear closer together. About all I have read about them lately pertains to mobile devices.

Intel is releasing Haswell, which will be an Intel tock, so it should be faster than what is currently available. Haswell is probably 6 months away, if you accept their plans at this point.

So to answer your question, it's hard to say. There is always something better coming, but as far as "within the next month" I haven't heard of anything spectacular on the horizon.

 

[tweakboy]

Don't forget Sandy E has 10mb cache compared to 8 for ivy and sandy 2xxx. gl

 

[InsaneAdam]

i7 3820 is brainless on X79 ... cause I7 3770K + 1155 is cheaper and a bit faster .... you have to pay extra $$$ for X79 mobo for nothing ..... for even less performance .....

this is true unless you find a killer deal on an x79 board.




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[shushine4nep2ne]

I had the same question - 3820 or 3770K recently and went back and forth a hundred times... Talked myself in and out of each platform and ASUS motherboard. Stared at the comparisons and reviews 'til my eyes bugged out.

Microcenter had the 3770K for $220 so I jumped on it and got an ASUS Maximus V Forumla board.

After a nice GPU upgrade, I believe my system will be relevant for a few years.

No regrets.

I just picked up a 3820 for $230 at micro center. And a Asus Rampage Formula for $240 like new on amazon. I thought that was a good price for the x79 platform. Plus it's going in a video editing rig which is the only area you see x79 barely beat a 3770k.

 

[Ratman6161]

I keep my computers for a long time. So I don't want to do anything to shorten the CPU's life.

I would not worry too much about shortening the life of the CPU as long as you are not getting extreme with the voltage. For my last couple of systems I have been able to get "pretty good" overclocks by going with the philosophy of getting the best OC I can do while maintaining stability at stock voltage.

For example I've got one system that's a Core 2 Quad 6600 that I ran at 3.2 GHz when it was my main system (stock is 2.4 ghz). Others at the time were getting 3.6 by cranking up the voltage but I could get 3.2 at stock voltage. I bought that CPU in March of 2008 and it was my main system until May of 2011 (got a 2600K then). From May of 2011 until now, its been humming along 24x7 as a VMWare ESXi server, still at 3.2 Ghz (a 37.5% OC by the way). So that system is still going strong after 5 years of usage, with the last two being 24x7. I've had similar results with many other CPUs.

The point being that IMO, it seems like overclocking does not reduce CPU life in a practical way as long as the voltage is kept down. Sure, if I run that C2Q side by side with another one that is not overclocked and let them sit there running for years until they die, then the non-overclocked one, chances are would go longer. But other components like the motherboard are likely to fail a lot sooner. And if that socket 775 motherboard fails, it probably won't make sense to buy another one even if the CPU is still good. Thats why I say as a practical matter, overclocking, within reason, does not shorten the real world CPU life.

 

[Makaveli]

Wants to buy a 3820... uses his PC for DAW work... Tweakboy, is that you?!

That is the first thought that came into my head.

i'm still LMAO.