I never said that Prescott didn't sucked. What I said is how the tech industry justified Prescott power issues due to the high leakage of the 90nm process, then arguing about how it was going to become even worse in lower nodes (I don't recall all those issues materializing at all, it was business as usual). Dothan and Winchester showed that 90nm itself worked fine, leaving the previous high leakage statements as excuses to try to justify Prescott being horrible. Thus, what I said is that I don't really believe than a 32nm K10 has any reason to clock lower than a 45nm one, and that Llano is a bad example of that due to the compromises made to have the GPU on the same die.The Prescott design sucked. Simple as that. Proof? Look at what Dothan achieved on the same process. Especially on desktop (f.x. using the CT479 adaptor). It's not even funny. 115W Prescott matched by a 37W mobile chip.