i5-4670K, Xeon E3-1230 v3 or FX-8350?

[ShintaiDK]

In that case, what's the advantage of having Hyper Threading on intel i7 CPU's and the huge price premium for this feature, as i5's are essentially i7's with their Hyper Threading disabled.

Wouldn't games perform better with CPU's that have a high core count; those, which have been coded to scale with more cores ?

Hyperthreading is for the usage of unused execution resources. Also the i7 offers more than Hyperthreading. You also pay for more cache and a speedbin.

Where you went wrong was to say a terrible much much slower IPC CPU was better, simply due to more cores.

 

[red_222]

The i5 for sure, for one thing more expendability compared to server based cpus, I am an avid AMD supporter but the FX series is just sad, i'll be hanging on to my Phenom 1090T for a while. Trust me the 4670 can out perform the i7 hexacores in single core performance and in multithreading its almost up to par with the i7 3930 in other words 4 threads vs 12 threads and the quad STILL takes it to a hexa core. Your call though.

 

[Arkaign]

Hyperthreading is for the usage of unused execution resources. Also the i7 offers more than Hyperthreading. You also pay for more cache and a speedbin.

Where you went wrong was to say a terrible much much slower IPC CPU was better, simply due to more cores.

Related :

Man, that pic never gets old.

The 8320/8350, and even the 6300/6350 are fine CPUs imho. However, for gaming, 95% of the time the 4670 is the better bet imho yes.

Something people really really forget about is that even in games that can use more than 2 cores, MOST of the time the bulk of the work is dominating a couple of the cores, with loads much lower on the rest. IOW, the game is bottlenecked by the most you can get out of IPC+Clock speed, while the rest of the cores get "side jobs" at best.

Will this change? Well, probably so. Will it change in time for there to be any relevance to 8xxx vs. i5 2500/3570/4670? I seriously doubt it. That level of IPC gap is a pretty tremendous chasm. Once you OC both, it simply gets wider.

 

[frozentundra123456]

The i5 for sure, for one thing more expendability compared to server based cpus, I am an avid AMD supporter but the FX series is just sad, i'll be hanging on to my Phenom 1090T for a while. Trust me the 4670 can out perform the i7 hexacores in single core performance and in multithreading its almost up to par with the i7 3930 in other words 4 threads vs 12 threads and the quad STILL takes it to a hexa core. Your call though.

I would agree of the three cpus listed, the 4670 would be the best choice for gaming. In heavy multithreaded workload though, the hex core intels still beat quad core intels. In gaming not so much, unless you overclock the hex core.

 

[red_222]

Related :

Man, that pic never gets old.

The 8320/8350, and even the 6300/6350 are fine CPUs imho. However, for gaming, 95% of the time the 4670 is the better bet imho yes.

Something people really really forget about is that even in games that can use more than 2 cores, MOST of the time the bulk of the work is dominating a couple of the cores, with loads much lower on the rest. IOW, the game is bottlenecked by the most you can get out of IPC+Clock speed, while the rest of the cores get "side jobs" at best.

Will this change? Well, probably so. Will it change in time for there to be any relevance to 8xxx vs. i5 2500/3570/4670? I seriously doubt it. That level of IPC gap is a pretty tremendous chasm. Once you OC both, it simply gets wider.

funny thing is AMD no longer uses "true" cores. last time more cores was good foro AMD was during the Phenom generation with the Thuban cores and that was the peak foro AMD after that- nose dive.

 

[dragantoe]

look into the xeon l5639, it's a 6 core cpu that has hyperthreading and a lot of overclocking headroom. you wud have to get it used, but it's <$100, and at 4 ghz (which is attainable on some mobos) performs a lot better than my 3570k at 4.6ghz did in every test except single threaded perf (even then it's only slightly worse, like less than 10%)

 

[Gikaseixas]

i5 4670K is the better choice for gaming. AMD FX 8350 wins very few titles compared to it and therefore not recommendable in this scenario.

 

[realoc]

Thanks for all the answers

To specify the games I play and want to play.
I'm not a huge fan of Military-FPS lige BF or CoD, so I won't play games like that too much.
Basically it's WoW,LoL,Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, GTA V, X Rebirth, Star Citizen and most likely the upcoming AAA titles like Watch Dogs etc.

So most of you think the 4670K will be the best choice. So be it