i5 2500k with hyper212 evo temps?

[Leet0nee]

So this is my first build and I got the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo installed onto the 2500k with my artic silver paste and just booting into the bios the temps are around 33.5 to 35 degrees. I haven't run any tests but is that a good temp reading for no load onto the cpu?

Not sure what the stock temps would read because I am upgrading from an Athlon 64X2 4800+ that would hit 95 degrees on OCCT and shutdown.

Input would be appreciated

Thanks

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

That is about average for the Intel® Core™ i5-2500K with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo with with Artic Silver Paste. Give it a month for the AS to cure and you should drop another couple degrees. If you add in another fan in a push/pull you will end up getting down into the high 20's or low 30's (at least that is what I am pulling with my Intel Core i7-2600K).

 

[Leet0nee]

Thanks for the response Intel. Just wanted to make sure I didnt mess up the instalation of the paste or whatnot. I didn't see any leakage and everything was square so far so good!

Thanks again.

 

[exar333]

OP - keep in mind that AS is not really a 'great' thermal paste any more. For $5, you can get a lot of better options that could also drop you a couple degrees. That said, I don't know important that is to your setup, but something to think about the next time you need more TIM.

 

[Zap]

the temps are around 33.5 to 35 degrees. I haven't run any tests but is that a good temp reading for no load onto the cpu?

That is cooler than your body temperature. Why wouldn't it be good?

 

[Leet0nee]

That is cooler than your body temperature. Why wouldn't it be good?

Because this is my first build with anytype of aftermarket cooler and I wasn't sure waht to expect espically since I hadn't installed the stock HSF and put in the evo right away.

So I had nothing to compare it to except the opionions of this forum.

 

[Charlie98]

OP - keep in mind that AS is not really a 'great' thermal paste any more. For $5, you can get a lot of better options that could also drop you a couple degrees. That said, I don't know important that is to your setup, but something to think about the next time you need more TIM.

What are examples of a better TIM? I just got some AS5 to replace my CoolerMaster goop, thinking it was a better solution. I'm fixing to reseat my 212+ with it, if there is something better, I'm all in...

 

[Fallengod]

People say stuff like that, some people are just insane. AS5 is fine, I still use it myself. Are there better pastes, yup, does 1-2C difference really matter that much in real world? Nope. You fucked up your build if it comes down to working vs not working with a 1-2C difference.

I have plenty of other pastes sitting around like Cooler master stuff(whatever that is), shin etsu, some other generic stuff, AS5, etc. I just keep using my AS5. I realized a long time ago it makes very little difference and stopped caring. I just keep using my AS5 so I can use it up.

Anyways, the CM hyper 212 plus is a great cooler and the evo is even better. I just picked up a third CM hyper 212 plus(not evo) last night on newegg for $18AR shipped free for a parents computer. You cant beat it for the price...

Temps on my not yet oc'd 2500k are 28-31C idle(all cores seem to vary slightly). I havnt really pressed it yet so I am not positive on full load temps.

I also lowered my CM fan down to 10% in bios(seems to be the lowest it will go?) so it runs most of the time at 700ish rpm. Still trying to figure out if I can get it lower than that.

 

[Charlie98]

Temps on my not yet oc'd 2500k are 28-31C idle(all cores seem to vary slightly). I havnt really pressed it yet so I am not positive on full load temps.

That's right where my idle temps are as well... it's the fully loaded temps that are the problem. (In the end, the high stock voltage was the culprit, not the cooler.)

The AS5 is thicker, I thought it might work better filling the gaps on the 212+'s heat sink.

 

[Clinkster]

MX-2 is the best value imo. It has no curing time, and I find that AS5 dries out over the years.

IC Diamond products are pretty solid too, a bit annoying to squeeze out of the tube though.

And if you want to stick with Arctic Silver, go with Ceramique.

 

[Leet0nee]

That's right where my idle temps are as well...

Charlie, where did you get your second fan for your push pull configuration
?

 

[Zap]

So I had nothing to compare it to except the opionions of this forum.

Well, just so you understand... some enthusiasts here are rabid hardcore and demanding, and if you listen to them you will never be satisfied. With anything. Temperatures. Performance of your SSD. How high of an overclock you can get with how low of a voltage. Everything.

 

[Leet0nee]

Well, just so you understand... some enthusiasts here are rabid hardcore and demanding, and if you listen to them you will never be satisfied. With anything. Temperatures. Performance of your SSD. How high of an overclock you can get with how low of a voltage. Everything.

Haha, thanks for the tip :thumbsup:

 

[Charlie98]

Charlie, where did you get your second fan for your push pull configuration
?

I bought an additional one from the 'egg...

Blade Master

...and a Y-cable to run them both off the CPU fan header.

To be honest, I didn't see much of a difference in the temps... the 212+ has huge gaps around the fans and I think a lot of the air current never gets through the exchanger.

 

[slpnshot]

Are you getting 33-35 at idle? Because it seems pretty high if it's idle. I'm OC'd to 4.5ghz with 3.6V~ and I don't idle that high with the 2500k+Evo.

 

[Fallengod]

Has anyone messed with setting their CM hyper 212+ fan speed lower? In the specs of the heatsink, it shows the fan varies from 600-2000rpm. On my mobo, I can only seem to go to 10% fan speed which puts it at 710rpm or so. I want to set it to 600rpm.

Are you getting 33-35 at idle? Because it seems pretty high if it's idle. I'm OC'd to 4.5ghz with 3.6V~ and I don't idle that high with the 2500k+Evo.

No offense, but theres no way it could be 33-35 load bro heh.

I am not sure what your idle temps are but they cant be that much better unless you either A) Live in a cold environment, B) Have the computer in a cold envionment, or C) Have massive amount of case fans and very efficient cooling heh. I agree his temps might be slightly high, but not by that much. He may live in a warmer climate. Its possible what you are reading your temps with are not accurate.

 

[Leet0nee]

I live in Newfoundland Canada. Pretty cold here to be honest. I guess the real test is when I stress it and see where it goes.

 

[Leet0nee]

So I did a mild overclock to 4.0ghz with out any kind of adjustment other than the auto overclock feature on the mobo ( asrock extreme 3 gen 3 ) and it jumped to 44 degrees. I must have done something wrong?

 

[Fallengod]

Fyi, an "auto overclock feature" is never what you should use overclocking...

And I have no idea, partly depends on the motherboard.

 

[Charlie98]

Fyi, an "auto overclock feature" is never what you should use overclocking...

And I have no idea, partly depends on the motherboard.

No, I would second that... my Gigabyte OC utility was pumping up my voltage and my BCLK and, at one point, causing almost instant BSOD or lockup.

 

[MadScientist]

What are examples of a better TIM? I just got some AS5 to replace my CoolerMaster goop, thinking it was a better solution. I'm fixing to reseat my 212+ with it, if there is something better, I'm all in...

It depends on what TIM review you read.

This one is a bit old but covers 80 different TIMs. AS5 was given an A+ performance rating. http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62

Another older review, 44 TIMS tested: http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64%3Amega-44-thermal-paste-round-up&catid=32%3Around-ups&Itemid=47

This one is more recent but omits some important TIMS like IC Diamond. AS5 did not do well in their tests. http://skinneelabs.com/2011-tim-results/

Another recent TIM review. AS5 still hanging in there. http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/geek_tested_17_thermal_pastes_face?page=0,0

Only a few TIMs tested here but interesting since they compare AC MX-4 and AS5 to the TIM I'm currently using TIM Consultant's Quantum. http://xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/coolers/thermal-grease-tim-round-up-six-times-the-grease/

If I could I would give Indigo Extreme and/or IC Diamond a try, but my Corsair A70, like the 212+, is an HDT cooler and these TIMS will not work with them.

So to answer your question, you and I need a low/moderate viscosity TIM to fill in the spaces between the heat pipes. Any of the top rated Aluminum, Aluminum oxide/Zinc oxide silicon grease base TIMS should work well: Arctic Cooling MX-4, Tuniq TX-4, TIM Consultant's Quantum, Noctua NT-H1, or Prolimatech PK1.

Or since you already have some AS5, and don't plan on doing any extreme overclocking, give it a try.

The big fault I found with AS5 is that after a few months it dries out to a grey clay. Arctic Silver 5 uses a polyester oil instead of a silicon oil/grease as its backbone.

 

[guskline]

I use AS5 on all of my rigs with great temperatures. I have a CM hyper 212+ on my one 2500k rig OC to 4532 and I have a CM hyper 212 EVO on an AMD 1100T rig OC to 3952. I found that adding a second identical fan to create a push/pull effect really works well with the CM hyper 212 series. You can control both fan speeds through the BIOS temp monitoring subsection. It take a little "trial and error" to get both fan speeds identical since the original fan is usually hooked to the CPU connector while the other fan connects to a case connector. The trick is to get both fans running nearly identical and set the temp monitors to run slower until you hit @ 45-47C then full bore. These rigs can run prime95 for 24hrs at the speeds set below in my sig and never exceed the mid 50s in temp. The other 2500k rig below has a corsair h60 water cooler, also with 2 fans and runs about the same temps.

 

[General Kenobi]

I got around 29-30C idling with 2500K + 212 EVO with no overclocking... then I accidentally moved the heatsink a couple of times this week while I was sorting my cables, and the temps went up to 33-34C. Now I need to clean and re-apply the TIM... bah.

 

[Rvenger]

I noticed there is a lot more wiggle room when you mount on the Intel CPUs. If you mount these on AMDs they clamp down extremely tight. Almost scared me when I seen the bracket bend.

 

[MadScientist]

I noticed there is a lot more wiggle room when you mount on the Intel CPUs. If you mount these on AMDs they clamp down extremely tight. Almost scared me when I seen the bracket bend.

The wiggle is caused by a design flaw in the mounting bracket. The pin on the cooler's base is supposed to keep it from swiveling, but the holes on the bracket for the pin are larger than the pin. No matter how much you tighten the bracket nut or mounting screws the whole heat sink is going to swivel. If you accidentally move it you can produce air pockets in your TIM which may cause your temps to rise.
The 212 EVO uses the same flawed bracket.

Bottom of mounting bracket.

Base pin