I would totally appreciate advice on this

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Building a computer for my roommate. I am recycling these parts:

Dvd burner
dvd rom
hard drive
RAM
floppy
LCD, keyboard, mouse, speakers


I need the following:
CPU - 3000+ Venice
Motherboard - I need the most help with this one - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152
PSU (preferably comes with the case)
Case (black, front usb and doesn't have all the stupid crazy crap all over it)
Video Card (needs DVI for his Dell 1905) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102545


The budget is $400 - $600 but $500 would be ideal for the max. My roommate is a casual computer user and doesn't need anything over the top. He does not game much if ever so something $50 or so would be all for that.

For the CPU I was thinking A64 3000+ socket 939. Motherboard would be an nForce 4 but I don't know which to get nor the difference between the Ultra.

So please help me pick this out, I would definately appreciate it.
 

theMan

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for that situation, it would be good to get a nice cpu. like a 3700+ san diego, and a middle end video card.

sorry, i have to go to sleep now, but ill try to update in the morning.
 

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Originally posted by: theman
for that situation, it would be good to get a nice cpu. like a 3700+ san diego, and a middleish video card.

sorry, i have to go to sleep now, but ill try to update in the morning.

Fixed. There's no such thing as middle end
 

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which AMD core would be ideal? I am not familiar with the heirarchy at the moment: Winchester, Venice, San Diego, Newcastle?

EDIT: Nevermind, Venice 3000+ it is
 

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Originally posted by: theman
for that situation, it would be good to get a nice cpu. like a 3700+ san diego, and a middle end video card.

sorry, i have to go to sleep now, but ill try to update in the morning.

thanks but that's too expensive and not really needed
 

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I need the most help with picking out a motherboard and a video card actually
 

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ABIT has socket 939 motherboards with AGP or PCI-E, you might want to look into those... Newegg has them. The video card maybe should be a X600pro ($80ish) if he doesn't game all that much
 

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I would recommend the Chaintech nf4 ultra board (don't know the model number). It is a great board and is really cheap. Add a black sonata case and an 6600gt (or an x800xl if you can find a good deal). That will bring you to about $500... That will be a solid setup and even allow for some OCing (2.4GHz easily).

Edit: My bad, didn't see the thing about no gaming. There is an ATI board that has a pretty decent onboard video. I can't remember wghat it is called, but it is greeat for nion-gamers and is pretty cheap (under $100). Add the antec case and the 3000+ and you will be set. That should cost under $400...

Edit2: Here it is. Only $86, can't beat that with that good of onboard video...
 

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CPU: 3000+ Venice is good.

MoBo:The ASUS A8N-E is good, affordable and stable. The A8N-SLI is basically the same, but it can take two video cards in SLI. Does he have any devices that need firewire (i-link), such as a digital video camera? If so, the A8N-SLI also has Firewire, while the A8N-E doesn't.

VC: If the cost isn't too much, the GeForce 6600GT (PCI-E) is a VERY good value video card. It will do any game out at the moment (HL2, Doom3, FarCry), yet costs far less than the top end cards.

CASE + PSU: If you have a look on the net, you can probably find a good deal. The case is really a matter of personal choice. But fot the PSU, try to get a name brand (such as Antec). An Antec TruePower 380/430 would be a good choice in a system like that. If you look around on the net, you should be able to find a decent case/PSU combo from Antec.

Anything else you need help with?

RoD
 

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Originally posted by: rod
CPU: 3000+ Venice is good.

MoBo:The ASUS A8N-E is good, affordable and stable. The A8N-SLI is basically the same, but it can take two video cards in SLI. Does he have any devices that need firewire (i-link), such as a digital video camera? If so, the A8N-SLI also has Firewire, while the A8N-E doesn't.

VC: If the cost isn't too much, the GeForce 6600GT (PCI-E) is a VERY good value video card. It will do any game out at the moment (HL2, Doom3, FarCry), yet costs far less than the top end cards.

CASE + PSU: If you have a look on the net, you can probably find a good deal. The case is really a matter of personal choice. But fot the PSU, try to get a name brand (such as Antec). An Antec TruePower 380/430 would be a good choice in a system like that. If you look around on the net, you should be able to find a decent case/PSU combo from Antec.

Anything else you need help with?

RoD

thanks dude. I think just the case/PSU is all that's left at the moment. The 6600 is a greay value but he would NEVER use it the video for anything so there's no point
 

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OK. Which MoBo have you decided on? The MSI one with the onboard ATI graphics (ATI xpress 200) would probably be a good choice if he doesnt game much. It gets you a MoBo and VC for under $100, and i think you can add a PCI-E card later if he ever wants.

Also, you'll probably want 1GB of RAM of you're going with onboard graphics.

RoD
 

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Originally posted by: rod
OK. Which MoBo have you decided on? The MSI one with the onboard ATI graphics (ATI xpress 200) would probably be a good choice if he doesnt game much. It gets you a MoBo and VC for under $100, and i think you can add a PCI-E card later if he ever wants.

Also, you'll probably want 1GB of RAM of you're going with onboard graphics.

RoD

I went with these (thanks to twitchee2):

GPU X300SE - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102545
DFI ULTRA- D $135
 

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OK. I just thought that SrGuapo's option would be better for someone who's not going to be gaming or overclocking... Also, it has the same GPU as the X300, so performance should be basically the same.


CASE:
As long as he doesn't want a side window, the antec sonata is black, fairly nice looking and (of course) has front USB, Firewire and Audio. It should also be fairly quiet, as it has a 120mm fan at the back, and i think it has another at the front, rather than noisey little 80mm fans.

You can get a sonata with a 380W antec PSU for $109 an newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129127

RoD
 

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Originally posted by: rod
OK. I just thought that SrGuapo's option would be better for someone who's not going to be gaming or overclocking... Also, it has the same GPU as the X300, so performance should be basically the same.


CASE:
As long as he doesn't want a side window, the antec sonata is black, fairly nice looking and (of course) has front USB, Firewire and Audio. It should also be fairly quiet, as it has a 120mm fan at the back, and i think it has another at the front, rather than noisey little 80mm fans.

You can get a sonata with a 380W antec PSU for $109 an newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129127

RoD

great, thanks

does this case have an acceptable power supply in case he wants a cheaper case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811209010
 

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OK. Just remember that the whole system is relying on the PSU. If it fails, the whole system fails. And if it fries, it can take the whole system with it. $65 for a truepowerII is actually a pretty good price i paid AU$140 (US$110) for a truepowerI earlier this year.

RoD
 

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Originally posted by: rod
OK. Just remember that the whole system is relying on the PSU. If it fails, the whole system fails. And if it fries, it can take the whole system with it. $65 for a truepowerII is actually a pretty good price i paid AU$140 (US$110) for a truepowerI earlier this year.

RoD

true but I've used the PSU's that come with random cases in all the computers I've made so far and there hasn't been any issues to warrent another $70 to the system
 

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Originally posted by: rod
First reaction was to suggest the 9800Pro, but thats overkill for this situation.

Try either the Radeon 9550 (Sapprire 9550 is $55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121512)
or the GeForce 5200 (ASUS 5200 is $44 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121185)

Just be careful when purchasing these, because some manufacturers will try to save a few bucks by leaving out a DVI connector.

RoD

how does a 64 meg 4200 compare to the 9550?
 

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Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: rod
First reaction was to suggest the 9800Pro, but thats overkill for this situation.

Try either the Radeon 9550 (Sapprire 9550 is $55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121512)
or the GeForce 5200 (ASUS 5200 is $44 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121185)

Just be careful when purchasing these, because some manufacturers will try to save a few bucks by leaving out a DVI connector.

RoD

how does a 64 meg 4200 compare to the 9550?