I wasn't freaking out about Ebola until the Dallas woman

steppinthrax

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I don't understand how this is being handled.

Is TX just as ass backwards as I think it is.

I'm seeing pic on Twitter of them cleaning the vomit up with a pressure washer, no eye protection etc....

This woman is in a apt complex. How is an apt a good facility to take care of this type of shit. Shouldn't see be in some sort of facility?

These sweat and possibly vomit soaked sheets were in her apt with her for several days. What would stop some terrorist from snatching that shit and using it as a starting point to make more viruses....

The red cross guy delivering food with the "YOLO" shirt cracks me up. He turns his face away while handing her a bag???? No protection what so ever....
 

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I wouldn't worry about it. It's contagious, but not as contagious as some people think it is.
 

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These sweat and possibly vomit soaked sheets were in her apt with her for several days. What would stop some terrorist from snatching that shit and using it as a starting point to make more viruses....

Probably one the ISIS terrorists in Mexico waiting for a chance to cross the border. Good thing Rick has been wearing his smartifying glasses lately and is on the case.
 

PokerGuy

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I wouldn't worry about it. It's contagious, but not as contagious as some people think it is.

Yeah, that's what we keep hearing, but even so you keep seeing people who understand the disease and the danger (like the NBC camera guy) get infected.... the numbers of infected grow quickly, so it must not be THAT hard to get infected. Thank God it's not as easy to spread/catch as the cold or flu, but it's not near-impossible either.
 

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The NBC camera guy was hired locally off the street like a day before he displayed symptoms.
 

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Yeah, that's what we keep hearing, but even so you keep seeing people who understand the disease and the danger (like the NBC camera guy) get infected.... the numbers of infected grow quickly, so it must not be THAT hard to get infected. Thank God it's not as easy to spread/catch as the cold or flu, but it's not near-impossible either.

Just an FYI to everyone, the NBC camera guy was a guy who had lived in Liberia for years and was hired by NBC literally days before he was diagnosed. (he was hired on Tuesday) It is almost certain he was already infected when hired.
 

Capt Caveman

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I don't understand how this is being handled.

Is TX just as ass backwards as I think it is.

I'm seeing pic on Twitter of them cleaning the vomit up with a pressure washer, no eye protection etc....

This woman is in a apt complex. How is an apt a good facility to take care of this type of shit. Shouldn't see be in some sort of facility?

These sweat and possibly vomit soaked sheets were in her apt with her for several days. What would stop some terrorist from snatching that shit and using it as a starting point to make more viruses....

The red cross guy delivering food with the "YOLO" shirt cracks me up. He turns his face away while handing her a bag???? No protection what so ever....

Do you believe everything you see on the internet?

There's no vomit from the patient out in the apt complex. Currently, the cleaning crew responsible for going into the apt is waiting to get a permit to transport the infected apt items. And how is a terrorist going to get into these infected items?

Jesus, so many ignorant people. And since these people are not showing any indications of infection, what's the issue of keeping them confined to the apt?
 

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Do you believe everything you see on the internet?

There's no vomit from the patient out in the apt complex. Currently, the cleaning crew responsible for going into the apt is waiting to get a permit to transport the infected apt items. And how is a terrorist going to get into these infected items?

Jesus, so many ignorant people. And since these people are not showing any indications of infection, what's the issue of keeping them confined to the apt?

The two cock-ups I see is the bureaucracy striking again with the permit delay and I just read where the software the Texas hospital used separated the nursing and physician work flow causing failures in how this was handled. Supposedly this was corrected but I wonder how long that's been going on.
 

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When the first cases of Ebola came out, we all heard about how difficult it was to catch this. It must be by fluids coming into contact with something open. Anyway, we see people wearing full hazmat suits getting Ebola. People who are not even near an Ebola person catching Ebola. People who are scanned before getting on an airplane having Ebola. Could the Government have been lying to us to prevent panic? Would our government do that to us? Would we really panic? How would we panic? Not really much we can do about it.
 

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Just an FYI to everyone, the NBC camera guy was a guy who had lived in Liberia for years and was hired by NBC literally days before he was diagnosed. (he was hired on Tuesday) It is almost certain he was already infected when hired.

I know that, and it's not like being a camera guy magically provides some protection, I'm just saying a lot of people make it seem like it's virtually impossible to catch from someone. That's just not the case. It's not easy to catch, but not impossible either.

In a country with medical infrastructure like the US, I'm comfortable that little pockets / outbreaks will be quickly contained, but I doubt it's going away anytime soon.
 

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steppinthrax

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Do you believe everything you see on the internet?

There's no vomit from the patient out in the apt complex. Currently, the cleaning crew responsible for going into the apt is waiting to get a permit to transport the infected apt items. And how is a terrorist going to get into these infected items?

Jesus, so many ignorant people. And since these people are not showing any indications of infection, what's the issue of keeping them confined to the apt?

What,

A home invasion, gunpoint, gloves, snatch that shit, leave real quick to some private lab....

Yes there is a problem of her being in the apt. She needs to be transported to a specialized quarantine facility.
Every surface of the apt needs to be sprayed down with detergent/bleach etc....
 
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steppinthrax

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The two cock-ups I see is the bureaucracy striking again with the permit delay and I just read where the software the Texas hospital used separated the nursing and physician work flow causing failures in how this was handled. Supposedly this was corrected but I wonder how long that's been going on.

Being to a hospital a few times in my life while in college. You would have to be growing two heads, tentacles coming out of your ass and blood shooting from every orifice of your body before they admit you. Or you sit in the waiting room for 12.5 hours.
 

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The two cock-ups I see is the bureaucracy striking again with the permit delay and I just read where the software the Texas hospital used separated the nursing and physician work flow causing failures in how this was handled. Supposedly this was corrected but I wonder how long that's been going on.

That to me was the biggest bunch of BS I've ever heard. So humans are incapable of communicating that someone may have Ebola and instead they rely of some software to record the info. How about getting up out of your chair and walking to the department head to report it.
 

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So since we're doing the mammalian-herd-is-spooked-panic-stampede thing...


Just think, this would be the perfect time for Russia to release their weaponized version of Ebola in the US, and use the current outbreak for plausible deniability; claiming it's a natural mutation.

(Probably trivial to detect signs of genetic engineering, but I'm no biologist/geneticist)
 

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When the first cases of Ebola came out, we all heard about how difficult it was to catch this. It must be by fluids coming into contact with something open. Anyway, we see people wearing full hazmat suits getting Ebola. People who are not even near an Ebola person catching Ebola. People who are scanned before getting on an airplane having Ebola. Could the Government have been lying to us to prevent panic? Would our government do that to us? Would we really panic? How would we panic? Not really much we can do about it.

I agree with this...

Look at this link (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us-reader-questions/index.html)

Read the twitter post questioning if it can become airborne?

I was always told that it's impossible for it to happen, but based on this it's saying the virus mutates with every new person it affects. So it's possible it can become airborne?????
 

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Texas is blocking Medicaid expansion too, so if this breaks out among the indigent uninsured, who knows when people will get around to seeing a doctor, and how many they will infect by then. I would just stay away from disease infested red states for the time being, to be safe.
 

Jaskalas

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These sweat and possibly vomit soaked sheets were in her apt with her for several days. What would stop some terrorist from snatching that shit and using it as a starting point to make more viruses....

It's entirely possible, but "terrorists" aren't nearly as intelligent and creative as we are. Most of them are stuck in tribal warfare on the other side of the planet. Others wouldn't want to risk contracting Ebola themselves.

I mean, think about it. This patient from Liberia is the best source, and all you gotta do is come into contact with him to become a walking pestilence yourself. Could probably kill more people than September 11th by that sacrifice alone.

Not likely to see anyone doing it though.
 

Jaepheth

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When the first cases of Ebola came out, we all heard about how difficult it was to catch this. It must be by fluids coming into contact with something open. Anyway, we see people wearing full hazmat suits getting Ebola. People who are not even near an Ebola person catching Ebola. People who are scanned before getting on an airplane having Ebola. Could the Government have been lying to us to prevent panic? Would our government do that to us? Would we really panic? How would we panic? Not really much we can do about it.


relevent:

From Here
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a quick Google search says Smallpox is estimated from historical data to have had an R0 somewhere between 3.5 - 6
... couldn't find an estimated value for Bubonic Plague in Medieval Europe
 
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relevent:

From Here
ebolar0_custom-51327a6a4853632602173cc2fa7ad8339aac5630-s4-c85.jpg


a quick Google search says Smallpox is estimated from historical data to have had an R0 somewhere between 3.5 - 6
... couldn't find an estimated value for Bubonic Plague in Medieval Europe

Don't you come in here with your fancy graphics and science. I saw Outbreak. As soon as ebola hit our shores, we guaranteed fully 90% of our population would become infected. Baseless paranoia will always triumph over logic or reason.