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I was listed as a reference

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LuckyTaxi

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So my friend and I have a real estate investment company and his wife had worked for us. Well, she now has a job and her employer called me today for a reference. I won't go into the whole thing, but her and I do not get along. She has said pretty harsh things to me in the past and I don't get involve since I have respect for my business partner's wife. However, i think this is my chance to get the truth out since she has manipulated many things in the past. Her work ethnic is horrible and if I were to call the HR person back, I would have to either tell the truth about her attitude or just lie and say she's "perfect" for the job.
 
Isn't it illegal to say bad things? Or is that just an urban legend.

My ex wife listed me as a ref once. Needless to say they didn't give her the job. I did nothing but tell the truth to the questions they asked.
 
i'm confused, what am i doing illegally? I know how she is and if they ask me if I would hire her again, I would say no.
What am I lying about? If she was a good working, then we wouldnt be discussing this. Karma is a b!tch and now you need me to help you?
 
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
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Correct. lilcam, by law you can't say anything negative about her. If the employer asks any questions beyond "Is she punctual, and on time? Does she foster a positive work environment?" etc., then its best you just say "I'm not at liberty to comment" or whatever. Don't express your opinion of her outside of direct questions.

For all you know, she wants you to say something bad about her so she can sue...
 
her fault for not telling you that she would list you as a reference.

that's really unprofessional and rude. let her have it.
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
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Correct. lilcam, by law you can't say anything negative about her. If the employer asks any questions beyond "Is she punctual, and on time? Does she foster a positive work environment?" etc., then its best you just say "I'm not at liberty to comment" or whatever. Don't express your opinion of her outside of direct questions.

For all you know, she wants you to say something bad about her so she can sue...
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wow, didnt know that. nah, i wouldnt say anything negative UNLESS the employer asks.
This is my first so I dont know what kind of questions they ask.

"would you consider her competent for this job?"


 
Originally posted by: lilcam
So my friend and I have a real estate investment company and his wife had worked for us. Well, she now has a job and her employer called me today for a reference. I won't go into the whole thing, but her and I do not get along. She has said pretty harsh things to me in the past and I don't get involve since I have respect for my business partner's wife. However, i think this is my chance to get the truth out since she has manipulated many things in the past. Her work ethnic is horrible and if I were to call the HR person back, I would have to either tell the truth about her attitude or just lie and say she's "perfect" for the job.
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did she ask you if you'd be a reference for her? if not, i would just say she never informed me that she was using me for a reference so i have no comment.

that is safer. it's better to not burn bridges.

 
Originally posted by: lilcam
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
Click to expand...

Correct. lilcam, by law you can't say anything negative about her. If the employer asks any questions beyond "Is she punctual, and on time? Does she foster a positive work environment?" etc., then its best you just say "I'm not at liberty to comment" or whatever. Don't express your opinion of her outside of direct questions.

For all you know, she wants you to say something bad about her so she can sue...
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wow, didnt know that. nah, i wouldnt say anything negative UNLESS the employer asks.
This is my first so I dont know what kind of questions they ask.

"would you consider her competent for this job?"
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Here you go:

http://injury-law.freeadvice.com/libel_and_slander/employer_references.htm

http://www.safehr.com/Backgroundmaterials/reference_checking.htm
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
Click to expand...

Correct. lilcam, by law you can't say anything negative about her. If the employer asks any questions beyond "Is she punctual, and on time? Does she foster a positive work environment?" etc., then its best you just say "I'm not at liberty to comment" or whatever. Don't express your opinion of her outside of direct questions.

For all you know, she wants you to say something bad about her so she can sue...
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I assume though that it's legal for him to answer questions that are asked truthfully even if it's a negative answer?
 
Originally posted by: isasir
I assume though that it's legal for him to answer questions that are asked truthfully even if it's a negative answer?
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Right, because it is fact and not opinion - the answers can be backed up with evidence or witnesses.
 
Originally posted by: isasir
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
Click to expand...

Correct. lilcam, by law you can't say anything negative about her. If the employer asks any questions beyond "Is she punctual, and on time? Does she foster a positive work environment?" etc., then its best you just say "I'm not at liberty to comment" or whatever. Don't express your opinion of her outside of direct questions.

For all you know, she wants you to say something bad about her so she can sue...
Click to expand...

I assume though that it's legal for him to answer questions that are asked truthfully even if it's a negative answer?
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Logically i would hope thats the way it is. But then again i guess employers could make stuff up? 😕
 
i'll just answer all questions truthfully. won't divulge any extra details.
in the end, they'll learn about her antics and she'll be gone soon.
It happened at every job she had along the way.
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
Click to expand...

Correct. lilcam, by law you can't say anything negative about her. If the employer asks any questions beyond "Is she punctual, and on time? Does she foster a positive work environment?" etc., then its best you just say "I'm not at liberty to comment" or whatever. Don't express your opinion of her outside of direct questions.

For all you know, she wants you to say something bad about her so she can sue...
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You can say anything negative about her as long as it's true and you don't have any ancillary suggestions, inferences, or innuendoes that lead the prospective employer to believe something that is misleading.
 
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I think legally, all you can say is how long she worked with you and how much she got paid, otherwise you're subject to litigation
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When i was in management in TN... 1996-1999... they were allowed to ask us if we would hire the person back if given the opportunity. All we were allowed to say was either yes or no.

has that changed?
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
You can say she is not on re-hire status. ^.^
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this is pretty much what everyone will ask on these kinds of call. would you hire them back? that will tell them everything they need to know while remaining perfectly legal.
 
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