I was in an accident...

[Schadenfreude]

Sorry OP, it's your fault:

- First and foremost, the other vehicle had control of the aisle in the proper flow of traffic
- You were backing out of a parked spot onto the flow of traffic, which put you at a greater duty to yield
- Point of impact indicates that you hit the other vehicle
- If you hit him on the rear bumper, that means you had plenty of time to give proper lookout before the loss happened, giving you the last clear chance to avoid the loss

Change the point of view around - if the SUV was blocking your point of view, it was also blocking his point of view as well - in this case, what would you say that he did something wrong?

Sorry. 🙁

 

[Lithium381]

exact situation occured to me only i was in the position of the tow truck driver.....the lady shot out wihtout checking, didn't procede slowly or anything
i had a witness though, so that helped

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Sorry OP, it's your fault:

- First and foremost, the other vehicle had control of the aisle in the proper flow of traffic
- You were backing out of a parked spot onto the flow of traffic, which put you at a greater duty to yield
- Point of impact indicates that you hit the other vehicle
- If you hit him on the rear bumper, that means you had plenty of time to give proper lookout before the loss happened, giving you the last clear chance to avoid the loss

Change the point of view around - if the SUV was blocking your point of view, it was also blocking his point of view as well - in this case, what would you say that he did something wrong?

Sorry. 🙁

I don't think you understand. I was a few feet out when he passed me. I was even further out when we impacted.
Perhaps if I was driving from the back seat I could have seen him. Unfortunately my steering wheel is closer to the front of the car. The SUV prevented us from making eye contact but not from him seeing the back of my car 3 feet out into the aisle with my reverse lights on.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I was backing out slowly, into the aisle of a parking lot. There was an SUV next to me on my left. I was about 3-4 feet out when the dirver's side bumper of my car struck the back of his truck bumper. He was driving from the left of me. Neither me or my passenger saw him.
Basically I was probably 2 feet out when he passed me, but I couldn't see him because of the SUV next to me, which was why I was going slow.
I never saw the cab of his truck.

So the truck passed almost completely behind you and you still didn't see it? You have no business behind the wheel of a car.

ZV

No, I had other things to worry about as well. I was out but also had to worry about the two cars beside me. I was focused on more than one thing. I checked my mirrors, slowly backed out, went a few feet more, glanced forward to see the SUV and make sure I wasn't too close to him, and that's when it happened. Like I said, I am not saying he is at fault.

 

[Aikouka]

Well, what you need to figure out is who has the right of way, which honestly I think the truck had the right of way. It's not as simple as pulling onto a street to determine, but if you think about it, he was already coming down and you were lagging and trying to pull out into the lane in which he was traveling in. In all of my driving experience, everyone should be aware of situations around them and never expect someone to give you the courtesy (such as him stopping and you pulling in to let him pass and backing out again).

In short, I'd say it's considered your fault. Not a big deal though, just report it to your insurance company (as long as the damages predicted are higher than your collision deductible and by a decent amount). You shouldn't see any raise in insurance premiums as long as it's under $1000 (from what I've experienced).

 

[chrisms]

You are at fault. You can make excuses about being careful, doing ever so slowly, and having too much to handle at once, but the fact is he had the right of way and you didn't. Unfortunately you had an SUV blocking your vision. You blindly backed out hoping nobody would be there, and somebody was. You lose.

Whether or not your only choice was to back out blindly, if you cannot see into the lane of traffic you are entering and a car in that lane of traffic runs into you as you attempt to enter it, you are at fault.

Also if you hit his rear bumper, that means his car passed your rearview mirror while you continued to back out. Its not like he came speeding down the lane and rammed your back end while you were still in a blind spot.

Sorry for sounding like a jackass I just read what you're saying and you don't seem to be expecting to be in the wrong here.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Or you can learn to drive properly and not have to cause a commotion at your local movieplex trying to back into a spot you passed and the guy behind is now trying to pull into.

For you types of guys, park in the back lot. No one is going to ding your production vehicle.

Oh STFU. Since when is backing into a spot a not parking properly? I guess someone died and made you the dumbass who decides what is right and wrong?

Why would backing into a spot rather then pulling in forward make a freakin bit of difference as door dings go?

As for door dings, I like how you label people worried about them as "you types of guys", but don't seem to have a problem with the people who have no regard for the property of others and cause them in the first place.

Yeah, giving a ****** about the car you spent thousands of dollars is just stupid right?

Hey, so, were you born with your head up your ass, or did you train for years to get it that far up there? Do you find it tough to type with it up there?

:roll:

OP -

Unfortunately, it's your fault...per the law. In reality, both of you are at fault...that is why they call them accidents..

🙁

 

[DrPizza]

Who was at fault: you.

Who caused the accident: BOTH of you.
ESPECIALLY you, because you hit the back bumper of the truck (unless the truck was driving ame tou're supposed to be watching where you are going.
The reason I also blame the other driver is because his defensive driving skills suck. Rule of thumb: if you make a habit out of passing people who are in the process of backing out of their space, eventually you're going to have an accident with the idiot who only glances once behind him, then backs out without looking back again.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Or you can learn to drive properly and not have to cause a commotion at your local movieplex trying to back into a spot you passed and the guy behind is now trying to pull into.

For you types of guys, park in the back lot. No one is going to ding your production vehicle.

Oh STFU. Since when is backing into a spot a not parking properly? I guess someone died and made you the dumbass who decides what is right and wrong?

Why would backing into a spot rather then pulling in forward make a freakin bit of difference as door dings go?

As for door dings, I like how you label people worried about them as "you types of guys", but don't seem to have a problem with the people who have no regard for the property of others and cause them in the first place.

Yeah, giving a ****** about the car you spent thousands of dollars is just stupid right?

Hey, so, were you born with your head up your ass, or did you train for years to get it that far up there? Do you find it tough to type with it up there?

:roll:

OP -

Unfortunately, it's your fault...per the law. In reality, both of you are at fault...that is why they call them accidents..

🙁

If you are worried, and you have every right to worry about any damage that may occur to your vehicle while it's parked, you do realize that by backing in, you do nothing to change the risk to your doors via door dings, but you substantially increase the risk to damage to the front of your vehicle by some other idiot out there backing into you (hit and run) in a parking lot? Front end damage is typically more expensive than rear end.

 

[Aimster]

A guy got out of his car demanding that I fight him because I almost hit his pontiac vibe (brand new cars at the time) backing out of a parking spot. I had an SUV next to me and I coulnt see the asshole.

I sat there in my car for 10 minutes blocking him in before he decided to go back to his car. He was yelling at me to either move my car or fight him. I was pissed off that he was insulting me so I parked my car trying to act tough, but I never got out cause well the guy was a psycho big man. He would have probably beaten my ass.
His license plate was like netadmin and he was in his 20s.

I was able to get out of the parking spot without hitting his car, but it appears that he got mad that he had to STOP. Asshole.
Amazing what a car can do to a person. Can make you feel like king of the world.

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: Aimster
A guy got out of his car demanding that I fight him because I almost hit his pontiac vibe (brand new cars at the time) backing out of a parking spot. I had an SUV next to me and I coulnt see the asshole.

I sat there in my car for 10 minutes blocking him in before he decided to go back to his car. He was yelling at me to either move my car or fight him. I was pissed off that he was insulting me so I parked my car trying to act tough, but I never got out cause well the guy was a psycho big man. He would have probably beaten my ass.
His license plate was like netadmin and he was in his 20s.

I was able to get out of the parking spot without hitting his car, but it appears that he got mad that he had to STOP. Asshole.
Amazing what a car can do to a person. Can make you feel like king of the world.

Reminds me of a story I heard from a friend in high school. These guys drove this big van and pissed some dude in a Mercedes off. They were maybe 16-17 years old. The guy gets out of his car at a red light, walks over to the driver and punches him in the face hard. Apparently he was a big dude. Then the kids had the last laugh as they ran the van straight into his open door and just about tore it off. The van was a piece of crap and you can bet the guy isn't going to go to the police about how the minor he assaulted ran into his vehicle.

 

[Conky]

Admit it, you wanted someone to hit your rearend. :laugh:

 

[Eos]

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze

Originally posted by: eos
I NEVER head in park, unless it is clearly marked that the spot is head in parking only. Especially when I'll be parked going from day to night in the rain. Wet windows, other cars may have their lights off in the parking lot. A recipe for disatser.

And before any of yous' start bitching, make another loop so no one has to wait for you to back in.

How the hell can we loop around when you're in the middle of the aisle taking your sweet ass time backing in. 😛

Read my post again. I was referring to anyone trying to back in, not people waiting. That's why you loop around [when trying to back in] if someone is behind you.

 

[Eos]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: eos
I NEVER head in park, unless it is clearly marked that the spot is head in parking only. Especially when I'll be parked going from day to night in the rain. Wet windows, other cars may have their lights off in the parking lot. A recipe for disatser.

And before any of yous' start bitching, make another loop so no one has to wait for you to back in.

Or you can learn to drive properly and not have to cause a commotion at your local movieplex trying to back into a spot you passed and the guy behind is now trying to pull into.

For you types of guys, park in the back lot. No one is going to ding your production vehicle.

My post clearly states to not hold up traffic trying to back in.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

the car already in the driving lane has the right of way

should have pulled out slower

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Sorry OP, it's your fault:

- First and foremost, the other vehicle had control of the aisle in the proper flow of traffic
- You were backing out of a parked spot onto the flow of traffic, which put you at a greater duty to yield
- Point of impact indicates that you hit the other vehicle
- If you hit him on the rear bumper, that means you had plenty of time to give proper lookout before the loss happened, giving you the last clear chance to avoid the loss

Change the point of view around - if the SUV was blocking your point of view, it was also blocking his point of view as well - in this case, what would you say that he did something wrong?

Sorry. 🙁

I don't think you understand. I was a few feet out when he passed me. I was even further out when we impacted.
Perhaps if I was driving from the back seat I could have seen him. Unfortunately my steering wheel is closer to the front of the car. The SUV prevented us from making eye contact but not from him seeing the back of my car 3 feet out into the aisle with my reverse lights on.

Well, the fact of the matter is, he had the right-of-way.

Let's put it in a scenario: I'm an auto insurance claims rep, and you're calling me about this accident - and keep in mind, what we determine fault is based on physical documentation since I'm in a call center and cannot go out/go back in time to determine the accident;
- Even if you pulled out 3/4ths of the way, how can you prove that you were out that much? What if the other driver says that you weren't even pulled out?
- Point of impact determines that you backing into him was the primary physical cause of the accident. How would I know? Easy. I'd just send for photos of the vehicle damages/estimate. That would explain if your rear bumper was hit, or your quarter panel.
As you stated, your rear bumper caught the rear bumper of the other vehicle - if there was damage, or as you stated that the other car caught your bumper, that would mean that your car was backing out as he was traveling in his lane.
- You were not established in the lane: point blank, he has priority in terms of right of way. Regardless of how far out you were, as long as you weren't completely out of the space and he rear-ended you, you're at fault. Again, point of impact establishes this.