I was at the DC tea party yesterday...

[GTaudiophile]

I was there. I marched from near the White House to the Capitol building in a constant stream of people along Pennsylvania Ave. that lasted for four hours.

These were people from all fifty states who came on their own volition. They were young, middle-aged, and old. While mostly Caucasian, there were quite a few African-Americans, Asian-Americans, and so forth.

People marched in peace. The signs were hilarious.

Basically everything boiled down to a distrust of government in general.

A few counter-demonstrators were encountered, mostly people claiming we were all racists. One protester claimed to be selling "white hoods" for $4.00. He was then confronted by several other African-American males who attempted to explain that the protest was about issues and not skin color.

Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.



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[Deliximus]

I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin? Or when this heavy deficit spending started under under Reagan, Bush I and II?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Deliximus
I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin? Or when this heavy deficit spending started under under Reagan, Bush I and II?

It's ok as long as a republican does it.

That's why i don't take these people seriously.

I walked by a tea party where i live and it was 100% white people (mostly middle aged and old). There was a college aged student with a sign that said 'Whole lotta white people here today' which i thought was hilarious.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Deliximus
I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin? Or when this heavy deficit spending started under under Reagan, Bush I and II?

It's ok as long as a republican does it.

That's why i don't take these people seriously.

I walked by a tea party where i live and it was 100% white people (mostly middle aged and old). There was a college aged student with a sign that said 'Whole lotta white people here today' which i thought was hilarious.

For a lot of these people it's OK as long as a white man does it. There is a very real racist element to a lot of the resistance to Obama simply because he's a black man spending white people's tax money. All that hate is socially acceptable now that it can fall under the guise of being politically motivated instead of racially motivated. "Socialist" is the new n-word.

Let me clarify, explicitly, that I am not saying everyone, or even probably the majority, who oppose Obama are racist or aren't genuinely politically instead of racially motivated.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Deliximus
I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin? Or when this heavy deficit spending started under under Reagan, Bush I and II?

Are these supposed to be arguments of some kind? These statements were old and tired the first time they were spoken and they're not getting any more relevant as time goes on.

People have reached a point where it's just too much. The deficit spending has been increasing and increasing and they've reached their breaking point. Yes, it has existed and increased over the terms of numerous Presidents of both parties. It does not help one bit that there is a man in the White House that repeatedly told us that things were going to be different. They're not different, but they're not even the same, because the situation has been dramatically escalated. People have reached their breaking point.

You, the media, whomever, can continue to put whatever spin they want on it. It doesn't change the situation. The people are attempting to take back control of their government. It's a right of theirs to do so.

If statements like these, the race card, or whatever, help you sleep at night by all means continue as you have been.

But I've got to be honest here, statements like those above I expect to be heard at any middle school. Most kids grow out of "it's not fair".

In addition, I'll pose a question to you. If the protests in Washington and elsewhere across the nation don't sit well with you, why are you not out offering the other viewpoint? Is there something stopping you from organizing people into an effort to provide a counter-argument? It's allowed under our Constitution.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

For a lot of these people it's OK as long as a white man does it. There is a very real racist element to a lot of the resistance to Obama simply because he's a black man spending white people's tax money. All that hate is socially acceptable now that it can fall under the guise of being politically motivated instead of racially motivated. "Socialist" is the new n-word.

Let me clarify, explicitly, that I am not saying everyone, or even probably the majority, who oppose Obama are racist or aren't genuinely politically instead of racially motivated.

How can you say the first paragraph and then the second.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I was there. I marched from near the White House to the Capitol building in a constant stream of people along Pennsylvania Ave. that lasted for four house.

These were people from all fifty states who came on their own volition. They were young, middle-aged, and old. While mostly Caucasian, there were quite a few African-Americans, Asian-Americans, and so forth.

People marched in peace. The signs were hilarious.

Basically everything boiled down to a distrust of government in general.

A few counter-demonstrators were encountered, mostly people claiming we were all racists. One protester claimed to be selling "white hoods" for $4.00. He was then confronted by several other African-American males who attempted to explain that the protest was about issues and not skin color.

Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.



CNN Article
Fox News Article
Dailymail Article
WSJ Article

Interesting to read the various takes from the different news organizations. Would you have any means of estimating the size of the crowd? I imagine being in the thick of it would not really give you any idea of how many were there.

I'm glad that people came together to speak their mind and did it in a civil and peaceful manner. I came of age close to the height of the Vietnam War protests. I'm a firm believer in the right of the people to assemble and protest - regardless of their views.

I found it interesting that both Obama and Biden shagged ass out of town. Gibbs claiming he wasn't aware of any protest was over the top. The man has little credibility IMO. He could have acknowledged it without condoning it. Instead he just lies. Very telling.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

For a lot of these people it's OK as long as a white man does it. There is a very real racist element to a lot of the resistance to Obama simply because he's a black man spending white people's tax money. All that hate is socially acceptable now that it can fall under the guise of being politically motivated instead of racially motivated. "Socialist" is the new n-word.

Let me clarify, explicitly, that I am not saying everyone, or even probably the majority, who oppose Obama are racist or aren't genuinely politically instead of racially motivated.

How can you say the first paragraph and then the second.

Easy, "a lot" vs. "everyone." See how language works?

 

[GTaudiophile]

I would guess that their 75K estimate is accurate. We were hearing things all over the board yesterday, like 500K or more, but I doubt it. Around 100K is probably a good number.

I should reiterate, that at least with the people I spoke with, there was as much displeasure towards Bush for his spending as towards Obama's.

The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Deliximus
I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin? Or when this heavy deficit spending started under under Reagan, Bush I and II?

Are these supposed to be arguments of some kind? These statements were old and tired the first time they were spoken and they're not getting any more relevant as time goes on.

People have reached a point where it's just too much. The deficit spending has been increasing and increasing and they've reached their breaking point. Yes, it has existed and increased over the terms of numerous Presidents of both parties. It does not help one bit that there is a man in the White House that repeatedly told us that things were going to be different. They're not different, but they're not even the same, because the situation has been dramatically escalated. People have reached their breaking point.

You, the media, whomever, can continue to put whatever spin they want on it. It doesn't change the situation. The people are attempting to take back control of their government. It's a right of theirs to do so.

If statements like these, the race card, or whatever, help you sleep at night by all means continue as you have been.

But I've got to be honest here, statements like those above I expect to be heard at any middle school. Most kids grow out of "it's not fair".

In addition, I'll pose a question to you. If the protests in Washington and elsewhere across the nation don't sit well with you, why are you not out offering the other viewpoint? Is there something stopping you from organizing people into an effort to provide a counter-argument? It's allowed under our Constitution.

You're so full of shit, we haven't seen any of you protesting the last couple decades until now. With Reagan you guys even fell in love with his deficit spending.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I would guess that their 75K estimate is accurate. We were hearing things all over the board yesterday, like 500K or more, but I doubt it. Around 100K is probably a good number.

I should reiterate, that at least with the people I spoke with, there was as much displeasure towards Bush for his spending as towards Obama's.

The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

That's just cover to pretend you guys were against Bush's spending so you don't look like fucking hypocrites (and perhaps racists). You guys were completely MIA during his term.

I also find it ironic that you idiots would worship sarah "I was for the bridge to nowhere before i was against it" Palin.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

That's not exactly redeeming the group.

 

[Phokus]

God, Arkaign, you are probably the most honest conservative i've ever run across, why can't more conservatives be like you instead of the rotten turds that make up your movement:

As a conservative, I also have to say that: Republicans are generally not interested in truth if it interferes with their bottom line. They'll use any means necessary, lies, cheating, and stealing to push their agenda. That's the nature of the people we are dealing with at the top of the Republican party. - Arkaign

 

[TeeJay1952]

Big government spending?
Revolutionary War
Louisiana Purchase
Alaska Purchase
Civil War
Spanish American War
The entire Westward expansion
World War 1 (not 2 we were attacked)
Social Security
Medicare

There is a history of the guys in Washington dragging us forward despite naysayers. Did you receive a bill for any of that? Well then quite worrying about future generations being saddled with debt they did not create.
The majority that attend these functions are on Medicare and receive Social Security. Many are ex military who have life time health care. Pot, Kettle, Black........

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

For a lot of these people it's OK as long as a white man does it. There is a very real racist element to a lot of the resistance to Obama simply because he's a black man spending white people's tax money. All that hate is socially acceptable now that it can fall under the guise of being politically motivated instead of racially motivated. "Socialist" is the new n-word.

Let me clarify, explicitly, that I am not saying everyone, or even probably the majority, who oppose Obama are racist or aren't genuinely politically instead of racially motivated.

How can you say the first paragraph and then the second.

Easy, "a lot" vs. "everyone." See how language works?

A lot versus majority. Just what is your definition of "A lot"?

It is similar to saying "No offense, but [insert something highly offensive]".

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I would guess that their 75K estimate is accurate. We were hearing things all over the board yesterday, like 500K or more, but I doubt it. Around 100K is probably a good number.

I should reiterate, that at least with the people I spoke with, there was as much displeasure towards Bush for his spending as towards Obama's.

The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

That's bad enough.

Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson? Are you kidding me? Heros?

Maybe to the ignorant masses who want rubber-stamping dittohead morons. Wilson is a joke and a liar himself. Especially considering he has taken hundreds of thousands in donations from healthcare companies.

The teabaggers are morons. They fail to realize that they have failed this country in the last 30 years, first by supporting the dipshit Reagan, then continuing the folly by supporting Bush Sr., and Bush Jr.. Those 3 racked up 90% of the debt we currently have and put us into an unsustainable position of spend/debt. Bush Jr. did the most damage by his ridiculous financial foolishness.

If the Repuglicans were anything more than hypocrits, I'd be proud to identify with them. However, they need to come clean on their past, acknowledge that their "heroes" are nothing more than RINOS, and come up with TRUE Republican leaders.

 

[IronWing]

Triumphalists make mighty sore losers. It isn't that Obama is black, it's that the conservatives lost an election and lost it so badly they couldn't find a way to steal it this time. So they parade around and try to make themselves feel better, mostly by feeding themselves the same BS that got them tossed out of power. Dem prospects for 2010 and 2012 look pretty good. Now if the Dems will quit trying to placate the tea party crowd and start moving the liberal agenda they were elected to implement, we'll all be better off.

 

[boomerang]

Yeah, it's very convenient for those than can't or won't understand the reasons behind this movement to associate it with political affiliation, to associate it with race, etc. Naturally of course, you could try to explain it to the die-hards until you were blue in the face and there would be no affect.

I just don't see how people can ignore the financial aspects of what is happening, what has been happening in this country for decades. Personally, I don't think it can be turned around at this point. But I also don't think that we should throw our hands in the air, acquiesce and thereby ensure that we go down in flames.

An effort must be made to try to bring this nation back to fiscal responsibility. We were told during the campaigns, that sacrifices would have to be made. A truer statement has not been spoken. It may be different than what some imagined.

"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains." Winston Churchill

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: TeeJay1952
Big government spending?
Revolutionary War
Louisiana Purchase
Alaska Purchase
Civil War
Spanish American War
The entire Westward expansion
World War 1 (not 2 we were attacked)
Social Security
Medicare

There is a history of the guys in Washington dragging us forward despite naysayers. Did you receive a bill for any of that? Well then quite worrying about future generations being saddled with debt they did not create.
The majority that attend these functions are on Medicare and receive Social Security. Many are ex military who have life time health care. Pot, Kettle, Black........

You can attribute huge portions of those situations to the Repuglican heroes, including the Teabagger poster boy (Jefferson) who almost bankrupted the country, expanded executive power (LA purch) and was a fool who more or less started us on the inevitable path to the war of 1812.

Then, as you say, the Teabaggers are some of the biggest users of social services.

To them I say, cut yourself off from ALL of those services and stop being hypocrites, then maybe I'll listen to you.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I was there. I marched from near the White House to the Capitol building in a constant stream of people along Pennsylvania Ave. that lasted for four house.

These were people from all fifty states who came on their own volition.

Basically everything boiled down to a distrust of government in general.

Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.

Where were you and the rest of the dolts when your heroes were in control doing the spending?

The only thing you're in control of is your hatred for this country.

You'all should spent the money on one way tickets out of here.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

For a lot of these people it's OK as long as a white man does it. There is a very real racist element to a lot of the resistance to Obama simply because he's a black man spending white people's tax money. All that hate is socially acceptable now that it can fall under the guise of being politically motivated instead of racially motivated. "Socialist" is the new n-word.

Let me clarify, explicitly, that I am not saying everyone, or even probably the majority, who oppose Obama are racist or aren't genuinely politically instead of racially motivated.

How can you say the first paragraph and then the second.

Easy, "a lot" vs. "everyone." See how language works?

A lot versus majority. Just what is your definition of "A lot"?

It is similar to saying "No offense, but [insert something highly offensive]".

My definition of a lot? Not everyone. And probably not the majority.

And no, it's similar to saying "There are people within a group that are highly offensive while the entire group is not necessarily so."

No offense, but you need to repeat your English classes. But don't feel bad, a lot of people do.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Phokus
God, Arkaign, you are probably the most honest conservative i've ever run across, why can't more conservatives be like you instead of the rotten turds that make up your movement:

As a conservative, I also have to say that: Republicans are generally not interested in truth if it interferes with their bottom line. They'll use any means necessary, lies, cheating, and stealing to push their agenda. That's the nature of the people we are dealing with at the top of the Republican party. - Arkaign

Your obsession with Arkaign is really disturbing.

 

[alchemize]

Astroturf?

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I would guess that their 75K estimate is accurate. We were hearing things all over the board yesterday, like 500K or more, but I doubt it. Around 100K is probably a good number.

I should reiterate, that at least with the people I spoke with, there was as much displeasure towards Bush for his spending as towards Obama's.

The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

That's bad enough.

Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson? Are you kidding me? Heros?

Maybe to the ignorant masses who want rubber-stamping dittohead morons. Wilson is a joke and a liar himself. Especially considering he has taken hundreds of thousands in donations from healthcare companies.

The teabaggers are morons. They fail to realize that they have failed this country in the last 30 years, first by supporting the dipshit Reagan, then continuing the folly by supporting Bush Sr., and Bush Jr.. Those 3 racked up 90% of the debt we currently have and put us into an unsustainable position of spend/debt. Bush Jr. did the most damage by his ridiculous financial foolishness.

If the Repuglicans were anything more than hypocrits, I'd be proud to identify with them. However, they need to come clean on their past, acknowledge that their "heroes" are nothing more than RINOS, and come up with TRUE Republican leaders.

Nah, they're true Republicans. Sarah Palin is a fair representation of the Republican Party. To claim Palin and Wilson don't represent the Republican Party is every bit as faulty as claiming that the modern Republican Party is the "Party of Lincoln". The party of Eisenhower and Nixon was buried with the ascendancy of Reagan, his happy-head free market frat boys, and the Christian Right.

 

[waggy]

personally i kinda agree with them. Im tired of the waste the goverment does. from having the Iraq war for what looks to be a few business. to the cost the Obama admin has done. None of the past few presidents (well besides clinton anyway) has been good.

Taxes are going to rise and rise high. Im sick of it.


I also think the Dems are hurting themselves by makeing of the protesters. I watch CNN when i can. but the fact they keep makeing fun of the protesters and calling them racist pisses me off. that kind of shit just makes me turn the channel. I hate Glen beck and can't watch O'rielly for long. The only guy i like is sheperd smith and looking at the women. the rest can take a flying fuck.