I want to take a wheel cheese and create a mite civilization and need your help...

[Moonbeam]

OK, so I want to take a big cheddar wheel cheese and put it in an even bigger scientific beaker which I can seal up. Now the mites are going to start eating the cheese and when the get done eating all the cheese it will collapse and they will all die. So what I want to do is evolve the mites in such a fashion that they survive for a very much longer time.

So what kind of civilization of mites do you predict would evolve if the mites are going to survive? Maybe instead we can just visualize an enormous wheel of cheese orbiting the sun in space. Stupid comments are welcome, of course, as they are inevitable anyway in a stupid thread.


Moving to OT from P&N.

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[Moonbeam]

I want to take a crack at this, Moonbeam:

The first thing that occurs to me is that the problem with mites is that they are self interested and nothing more. A normal mite, it seems to me is just going to eat the cheese right up to the day he dies of old age or there's no more cheese to eat. So no long term survival is going to be possible unless something breaks this pattern.

 

[Moonbeam]

I want to take a crack at this, Moonbeam:

The first thing that occurs to me is that the problem with mites is that they are self interested and nothing more. A normal mite, it seems to me is just going to eat the cheese right up to the day he dies of old age or there's no more cheese to eat. So no long term survival is going to be possible unless something breaks this pattern.

Well duh! Had you read my OP you might have noted that I asked for the specifics of what kind of evolution a long term survival solution might look like. Any idiot can see what the immediate problem is. What solutions do you offer. What kind of break in the pattern with specifics do you think needs to happen?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Parmigiano Reggiano is a much better wheel cheese.

 

[Moonbeam]

Well duh! Had you read my OP you might have noted that I asked for the specifics of what kind of evolution a long term survival solution might look like. Any idiot can see what the immediate problem is. What solutions do you offer. What kind of break in the pattern with specifics do you think needs to happen?

duh? DUH? You bastard, I'm out of here. Let somebody else solve your stupid problem. You're not dropping you condescending arrogance on me.

 

[RedString]

Is this guy talking to himself? I'm confused.

 

[Moonbeam]

Parmigiano Reggiano is a much better wheel cheese.

Not enough moisture to sustain a civilization of evolving mites and more expensive to launch is planetary size.

 

[Moonbeam]

Is this guy talking to himself? I'm confused.

No, I was talking to the sniveling coward who first posted and then abandoned my thread because his tiny feelings got hurt.

 

[LunarRay]

Well duh! Had you read my OP you might have noted that I asked for the specifics of what kind of evolution a long term survival solution might look like. Any idiot can see what the immediate problem is. What solutions do you offer. What kind of break in the pattern with specifics do you think needs to happen?

When in the course of human events it becomes obvious to an on-looker that the subject of their looking ought to medicate so to obviate the need to postulate and reply tangentially when what was propounded ought to have resulted in an expectation of response from the community addressed or at least an answer within the conduit of the question's parameter.

Having said that... I need some further information...

Given that I don't know the environment within the sealed 'container' nor the quantity of mites introduced into it nor the eating habits of mites nor their propagation rate based on the environmental factors yet to be provided nor the rate that mites consume oxygen nor the affect of the environment on the cheese, I can't offer a reasonable response.

 

[nobodyknows]

Is this guy talking to himself? I'm confused.

But his logic is impeccable plus he seems to be winning the argument, don't you think?

The mites will learn to be cannabilisitic after the chesse runs out. After that??

 

[WelshBloke]

Parmigiano Reggiano is a much better wheel cheese.

In this situation Casu marzu might be a better bet.

You might want to close your eyes and give it a thump before you eat it though.

 

[Moonbeam]

In this situation Casu marzu might be a better bet.

You might want to close your eyes and give it a thump before you eat it though.

We are going to stick with good old fashioned American Cheddar, God Damn it. I'm paying for this launch. The mites are going to get the cheese I say they will eat. All you cheese cognoscenti and gourmands can take your cheese preferences and stuff them where the sun don't shin. They aren't going into orbit around our local star on my dime.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

But his logic is impeccable plus he seems to be winning the argument, don't you think?

I'm not sure if I've even seen Moonbeam lose an argument with himself.

 

[monovillage]

Clifford D. Simak wrote about an ant civilization in his book "City".

A mutant called Joe invents a way for ants to stay active year round in Wisconsin, so they don't start over every spring. Eventually the ants form an industrial society in their hill. The amoral Joe, tiring of the game, kicks over the anthill. The ants ignore this setback and build bigger and more industrialized colonies.

No way as cool as mites on a cheddar cheese wheel, what could be? but a cool story none the less.

 

[Lemon law]

Ha ha ha, the Moonbean delusion is that everyone loves cheese.

I can understand I have never been a consensus Anand tech poster, but somehow in my formative years, I have always disliked the taste of Cheese. And as we analytically understand how cheese is made, Moonbeam is selling us something even more disgusting than Sausage.

I reject our cheese overlords, it may be the root cause of all evil.

 

[WelshBloke]

We are going to stick with good old fashioned American Cheddar, God Damn it. I'm paying for this launch. The mites are going to get the cheese I say they will eat. All you cheese cognoscenti and gourmands can take your cheese preferences and stuff them where the sun don't shin. They aren't going into orbit around our local star on my dime.

:biggrin: OK, its just easier to have a thriving population if their home has a vigorous ecosystem.


And I like to see peoples reactions after they google Casu marzu. D:

 

[Moonbeam]

Ha ha ha, the Moonbean delusion is that everyone loves cheese.

I can understand I have never been a consensus Anand tech poster, but somehow in my formative years, I have always disliked the taste of Cheese. And as we analytically understand how cheese is made, Moonbeam is selling us something even more disgusting than Sausage.

I reject our cheese overlords, it may be the root cause of all evil.

Fortunately for you, you are not a cheese mite. But the only assumption I made was that cheese mites in fact do like cheese. But I can see some potential solution wise, the the eating all the cheese problem, that a development of a distaste for cheese might be have potential. Thank you for your contribution.

 

[Moonbeam]

:biggrin: OK, its just easier to have a thriving population if their home has a vigorous ecosystem.


And I like to see peoples reactions after they google Casu marzu. D:

Are you trying to say there's something not vigorous about a diet of American Cheddar, you communist bastard. Forgive me if I have misunderstood and over reacted. It does seem reasonable we will want the most vigorous mites we can get. provided of course that vigor can be directed somewhere else than the gusto digestion of cheese.

 

[WelshBloke]

Are you trying to say there's something not vigorous about a diet of American Cheddar, you communist bastard. Forgive me if I have misunderstood and over reacted. It does seem reasonable we will want the most vigorous mites we can get. provided of course that vigor can be directed somewhere else than the gusto digestion of cheese.

I may be a Communist (well socialist but its all the same to you Atlanticly challenged folks ) but I'm no bastard! ()

Maybe I should have used the word flourishing instead of vigorous, or maybe jumping or even revolting.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

And I like to see peoples reactions after they google Casu marzu. D:

I watched Andrew Zimmern on the show Bizarre Foods eat that cheese as well as some other cheeses he described as having a strong ammonia flavor.

 

[WelshBloke]

I watched Andrew Zimmern on the show Bizarre Foods eat that cheese as well as some other cheeses he described as having a strong ammonia flavor.

Di vermi o senza vermi?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So, what's the airspeed of an unladen mite?

 

[FoBoT]

Is this guy talking to himself? I'm confused.

it's like a statement on society or on the state of anandtech forums or something like that

 

[FoBoT]

So, what's the airspeed of an unladen mite?

African or European?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Personally I find the recifidiferous application of American Cheese to be a refreshing odiferous bi-product of self dis-solutionment. Coupled with decaying infrastructure of the dust mites habitation. I find no ocillicious stratosperic abnormailties to predate the existence of pre-civilization dust mite cultures.
Now if we are going to address the dustmite penile colony located approx 180 lightyears from our present location, then we can all agree that the level of recidivism has dropped lower that my toilet when I flush it.
Yet the moral fibre of our society thus as it is will deny all existence of dustmites.
The virtues which this colony was founded upon from the very foundations of the earth are just well over whelmingly diometrically opposed to a sendentary government!!