I want to start a heatsink hobby...

SagaLore

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For some reason, I am fascinated at heatsink technology. I actually got hooked on Anandtech when researching overclocking and cooling, and benchmarking motherboards, ram, and video, etc. It was a good 6 months before I ventured into ATOT, and boy do I ever regret it... :eek:

I have this awesome design in my head for a heatsink. I think it would beat anything else out there, for less cost.

But I don't have any equipment or any education/experience in metallurgy. :( What can I do?

edit: changed "company" to "hobby" :p I wasn't planning on making any money
 

ElFenix

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first you should spell it right

"heat sink"
 

minendo

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I don't think anything will ever beat the cost to performance ratio of svc gc series.
 

NogginBoink

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You can either:

A) Learn about metallurgy, machining, manufacturing, marketing, and distributing a product

B) Work with (hire) someone who knows all this stuff

C) Give up
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ElFenix
first you should spell it right

"heat sink"

he has it spelled the exact same way

you must have missed the space. "heat sink" is two words.
 

fs5

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
For some reason, I am fascinated at heatsink technology. I actually got hooked on Anandtech when researching overclocking and cooling, and benchmarking motherboards, ram, and video, etc. It was a good 6 months before I ventured into ATOT, and boy do I ever regret it... :eek:

I have this awesome design in my head for a heatsink. I think it would beat anything else out there, for less cost.

But I don't have any equipment or any education/experience in metallurgy. :( What can I do?

if you don't have any experience than how do you know it will beat anything else? details?
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ElFenix
first you should spell it right

"heat sink"

he has it spelled the exact same way

you must have missed the space. "heat sink" is two words.

Perhaps he was thinking of naming his company Heatsink Inc. :p
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Crazymofo
patent the idea and sell it to a company...

no wait, tell everyone to do it while you're in the patent process, then when you're awarded the patent start suing!
 

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Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Originally posted by: SagaLore
For some reason, I am fascinated at heatsink technology. I actually got hooked on Anandtech when researching overclocking and cooling, and benchmarking motherboards, ram, and video, etc. It was a good 6 months before I ventured into ATOT, and boy do I ever regret it... :eek:

I have this awesome design in my head for a heatsink. I think it would beat anything else out there, for less cost.

But I don't have any equipment or any education/experience in metallurgy. :( What can I do?

if you don't have any experience than how do you know it will beat anything else? details?

lol... it's like my stupid thoughts on how cars should be designed, and other foolishness.

nope, w/o training you aint gonna have any better ideas than someone who understands metallurgy, heat transfer, etc.

either go to school, or give up now.

do you understand fluid dynamics? how air passes over stuff? etc etc?
 

CPA

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Put your ideas on paper, then take them to a university and speak with professors in engineering and metalurgy. Ask them for help with the specs. Once you get the specs down, take everything to a machinist shop who has the tools to design a prototype for you. If you don't burn out the dozens of chips you will test it on, then see about doing a limited manufacturing run and see if you can get some of the local shops to sell it for you. Then if things go well, the machinist will want you to purchase a large quantity, otherwise it won't be worth his time.

All of this will take a lot of time, money, effort, money, contacts and money.
 

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Originally posted by: CPA
Put your ideas on paper, then take them to a university and speak with professors in engineering and metalurgy. Ask them for help with the specs. Once you get the specs down, take everything to a machinist shop who has the tools to design a prototype for you. If you don't burn out the dozens of chips you will test it on, then see about doing a limited manufacturing run and see if you can get some of the local shops to sell it for you. Then if things go well, the machinist will want you to purchase a large quantity, otherwise it won't be worth his time.

All of this will take a lot of time, money, effort, money, contacts and money.

rather than do the initial tests on chips, do some comparison tests on a heat source that you can control (your sink vs. other company's sinks)... then you can compare yourself to the rest of the market.
 

miniMUNCH

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How do you know your design is worth anything if you don't know transport phenomena (and I'm talking at a masters level at least)?

These heat sink co.'s have PhD's who did their thesis in heat transfer working on this stuff...
 

TheNinja

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
How do you know your design is worth anything if you don't know transport phenomena (and I'm talking at a masters level at least)?

These heat sink co.'s have PhD's who did their thesis in heat transfer working on this stuff...

I agree, I would think the the people with PhD's who get paid big time money to research and design heatsinks would probably have a little better idea than someone with no "education/experience in metallurgy". But if you truely think you are onto something follow some of the ideas here, someone has to invent something new....."think outside of the box" if you will (had to throw in a nomination for most annoying cliche);)
 

Howard

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You'd better do something innovative, like machining the bases to 0.001mm tolerance and crystalline diamond-plating the base to maximize thermal conductivity (though an amorphous diamond coating might do better since they can put those on thicker than crystalline diamond, so you can get a thicker diamond layer - amorphous diamond doesn't conduct heat as well as crystalline diamond, though).
 

oLLie

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Originally posted by: Howard
You'd better do something innovative, like machining the bases to 0.001mm tolerance and crystalline diamond-plating the base to maximize thermal conductivity (though an amorphous diamond coating might do better since they can put those on thicker than crystalline diamond, so you can get a thicker diamond layer - amorphous diamond doesn't conduct heat as well as crystalline diamond, though).

I was gonna say the exact same thing. Either that or put peanut butter on the bottom.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: CPA
If you don't burn out the dozens of chips you will test it on
Why would it have to be tested on cpu's?

lol

What's so funny? :D When you look at the benchmarks of heatsinks, the testers use a thermal probe of a sort to determine how much heat the cpu is maintaining. So I would need to do that anyway if I'm testing it on a CPU - why not just test it with a blank square of silicon, set into a "heater" of sorts?