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I want to get into martial arts and I need your help

venk

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I'm too much of a wimp, I have decided it is time I learn to defend myself. What is the best Martial Arts to learn to defend myself and to fight? Karate? Tai Kwan Do? Kung Fu? Any info on these would be appreciated.
 
Keep an open mind-you wont be Jet Li in a week.
research different styles, visit some studios. If the studio requires an immediate contract, walk out-they just want your money.
Traditional Shotokan Karate is a safe bet.
It will get you in decent shape, and is easier to pick up than something like Akkido.
Dont bother with stuff like Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and other trendy styles.
 
Originally posted by: TapTap
Keep an open mind-you wont be Jet Li in a week.
I dont expect to be 😉

research different styles, visit some studios. If the studio requires an immediate contract, walk out-they just want your money.
Traditional Shotokan Karate is a safe bet.

The whole point of this post is for you guys to do my research for me. 😉 But I will look into it.

It will get you in decent shape, and is easier to pick up than something like Akkido.

I'm already in great athletic shape, is that what you are refering to ?

Thanks
 
Just a little warning, your opponents won't be following your own sense of right and wrong when in a street fight. And showy stuff doesn't work.
 
Everyone will say that the style they studied is the best. I'm no different, I think judo is awesome. There are different throws and stuff you can do for bigger or smaller opponents, and the mat work is excellent if you get grabbed and brought to the ground. Put some dude in an elbow lock or choke him out and you're all set 🙂

You should try a few different styles and see what works best for you.
 
I did karate for 2 years, and Tae Kwon Do for 3 when i was in Middle - high school.

From my experience, they both suck. The two dojos i went to were too concerned about form, and style , and not enough into real self defense.I remember i was looking for something new back then, and Kung Fu was what I would have started next had I not dropped m.a. alltogether. I think the main thing tho, whatever form you wish to practice, is to get a good instructor. I live in the suburbs of Texas and both of my instructors were middle aged white guys. My asian friends always had the inside contacts, and some of them were taught by their great uncles and/or buddhist monks.
 
Originally posted by: TapTap
Dont bother with stuff like Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and other trendy styles.


Lets be honest. Whats wrong with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? It's not trendy, thats what works. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is probably the best martial art for one on one fighting. To be honest no matter what martial art your doing, your not gonna do that good against 5 people, those are movies. Tae kwon Do, Karate, Kung fu is more a waste I think. None of them were ever proven, and neither was aikido. All these people with their martial arts swear that theirs is the best and they could win, but they don't want to do the special touch of death, not true.

Anyway, what I would reccommend would be, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Wrestling, Muay Thai, boxing, San Da, Kyokushin karate, thats the one exception to karate because it's contact. The best way to learn is from contact and experience. Krav Maja or however it is spelled is supposedly also good.

BJJ, Wrestling is mainly for 1 on 1, so if you fight more people you'll get your head stomped in.

If you want to look fancy, than those arent the martial arts for you, but they are proven. If you plan on doing like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, or Wrestling, watch out for cauliflower ear.
 
Also, one of the most important and necessary things is finding a good instructor. The art won't matter if the instructor sucks.
 
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: TapTap
Dont bother with stuff like Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and other trendy styles.


Lets be honest. Whats wrong with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? It's not trendy, thats what works. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is probably the best martial art for one on one fighting. To be honest no matter what martial art your doing, your not gonna do that good against 5 people, those are movies. Tae kwon Do, Karate, Kung fu is more a waste I think. None of them were ever proven, and neither was aikido. All these people with their martial arts swear that theirs is the best and they could win, but they don't want to do the special touch of death, not true.

Anyway, what I would reccommend would be, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Wrestling, Muay Thai, boxing, San Da, Kyokushin karate, thats the one exception to karate because it's contact. The best way to learn is from contact and experience. Krav Maja or however it is spelled is supposedly also good.

BJJ, Wrestling is mainly for 1 on 1, so if you fight more people you'll get your head stomped in.

If you want to look fancy, than those arent the martial arts for you, but they are proven. If you plan on doing like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, or Wrestling, watch out for cauliflower ear.


kung fu has been proven
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: TapTap
Dont bother with stuff like Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and other trendy styles.


Lets be honest. Whats wrong with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? It's not trendy, thats what works. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is probably the best martial art for one on one fighting. To be honest no matter what martial art your doing, your not gonna do that good against 5 people, those are movies. Tae kwon Do, Karate, Kung fu is more a waste I think. None of them were ever proven, and neither was aikido. All these people with their martial arts swear that theirs is the best and they could win, but they don't want to do the special touch of death, not true.

Anyway, what I would reccommend would be, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Wrestling, Muay Thai, boxing, San Da, Kyokushin karate, thats the one exception to karate because it's contact. The best way to learn is from contact and experience. Krav Maja or however it is spelled is supposedly also good.

BJJ, Wrestling is mainly for 1 on 1, so if you fight more people you'll get your head stomped in.

If you want to look fancy, than those arent the martial arts for you, but they are proven. If you plan on doing like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, or Wrestling, watch out for cauliflower ear.


kung fu has been proven


Everytime Kung fu fighters have been against Muay Thai fighters, they have lost.
 
Everytime Kung fu fighters have been against Muay Thai fighters, they have lost.

i didn't know the purpose of learning a martial art was to be able to beat muay thai fighters...

when i said "proven" i meant that people that know kung fu are able to effectively use it in self defense (what the poster is attempting to learn a martial art for).

 
Originally posted by: gopunk
Everytime Kung fu fighters have been against Muay Thai fighters, they have lost.

i didn't know the purpose of learning a martial art was to be able to beat muay thai fighters...

when i said "proven" i meant that people that know kung fu are able to effectively use it in self defense (what the poster is attempting to learn a martial art for).


Yea, you might be able to go against a completely untrained fighter, but you need the basic moves if he just wants it for self defense. Kung fu is to showy, and won't do as much good in a fight.

Basically, what I'm saying is martial arts like Muay Thai use basic techniques which are proven to work, you can do learn it much faster than Kung Fu, and it will be more effective.

http://members.tripod.com/~crane69/index6d.htm
 
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: gopunk
Everytime Kung fu fighters have been against Muay Thai fighters, they have lost.

i didn't know the purpose of learning a martial art was to be able to beat muay thai fighters...

when i said "proven" i meant that people that know kung fu are able to effectively use it in self defense (what the poster is attempting to learn a martial art for).


Yea, you might be able to go against a completely untrained fighter, but you need the basic moves if he just wants it for self defense. Kung fu is to showy, and won't do as much good in a fight.

hmm tell bruce lee that... he wasn't always an actor, you know

just because people can make it look good doesn't mean it isn't good in a fight... obviously in a fight, they are not going to adhere to their routine and adapt as necessary. won't be as flamboyant and whatnot either.
 
To obtain the art of invisibility, master Ninjitsu black belt level 9, you can do wonders with your new found art. Or dun waste your time and follow the crowd. See below.

Umm, to defend yourself like a coward(like most Americans), buy a gun, it solves pretty much any problems. This is a growing trend, follow the crowd. Seriously, it is a better solution but i prefer mortal kombat! 🙂


 
Try Marine Corps martial arts

I learned up to the first belt level at boot camp, hopefully starting level 2 shortly. Form is important, but not as important as understanding how the moves work, getting you to the point of being able to use the move effectively on someone, and defending yourself. Very useful if you ask me 😀
 
Originally posted by: venk
I'm too much of a wimp, I have decided it is time I learn to defend myself. What is the best Martial Arts to learn to defend myself and to fight? Karate? Tai Kwan Do? Kung Fu? Any info on these would be appreciated.
Then you really want to be a ninja.

Here is the link to everything you need to know.

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If you think the sole reason for learning a martial art is for fighting, then I suggest you bypass it. I have a nice .45 semi auto that serves that purpose better.

 
no, just swing your arms in a windmill fashion while kicking your way forward, i saw it on the simpsons, its makes u invincible.
 
i prefer the art of Smith&Wesson.

So if you were being bullied by a punk in school you would whip out your gun and blow his brain out and create another Columbine? Or if you went to a party and a drunk is just pushing you around, you're gonna shoot him between the eyes? Retard.

To the poster:
Most people's version self defense is just against a dick in school or something. That is unless you're a retard and walk down the bad streets of L.A. flashing gang signs and have $100 bills hanging out of your pockets. Basically, almost any art will do because it will give you the confidence you need - if you walk straight and tall, keep brief eye contact with people walking past you to acknowledge you see them (as opposed to looking down), no one will mess with you because they want a vulnerable target whereas you would look confident and not like a potential victim.

I've noticed a lot of people who say Tae Kwon Do is sh!tty is just repeating what others say. It's the most popular martial arts in the U.S. so it gets attacked a lot. Then people will bring up the fact that TKDists never win in UFC - well the UFC is geared towards big wrestlers/grapplers. Although it brags that it has very few rules, it still does...enough that you can't do most thing to end a fight quickly. I can guarantee you if kicking and breaking the knee joint is allowed, more TKDists/striking martial artists will win. Other than that, many striking artists still win - I've seen many people get knocked out cold in UFC when getting kicked in the head. And TKD is famous for its kicking. Then people attack TKD for its flashy kicks that isn't practical. True...but they ignore the basics of TKD that is very practical - side/front/spinning wheel (which is powerful as hell because of the spin...and can be used when the chance presents itself)/roundhouse/etc. Then there are the flashy kicks to impress people - and to do those, you need good athletic ability (which TKD will help you attain) that will help in a fight.

I would recommend Tae Kwon Do because of its power in its kicks. But if you want a brutal martial arts, then there is Muay Thai. I'll admit that TKD is wimpier than Muay Thai, but it isn't for everyone. Unless you know what you're getting into, I wouldn't recommend that art (sport rather). The real Muay Thai people train hours a day just to compete. Is competition is what you want; can you devote that much time; and can you constantly take full powered kicks each practice? If no, then Muay Thai isn't for you. I read that Muay Thai competitors have an average career of 3 years because they get seriously injured in competition so often. If you want to get your head bashed in or break get bones broken, then listen to the guy who says proudly says to take Muay Thai. Tae Kwon Do, although not as brutal or "manly", will still teach you how to kick VERY HARD, while having fun at tournaments that are neither too wimpy nor too brutal. And you can use what you learned in self defense because most people won't expect a kick. You will rarely ever fight with another martial artists unless you're competing. Most martial artists won't need an ego boost by picking random fights on the streets.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is effective one-on-one, but like others have said, you're dead if you get jumped by a group of people. The other guy will beat you over the head with a stick while you're applying the best arm bar ever.

Another martial art I would like to recommend is Hapkido - it blends the best of both words - joint locks/grappling and striking and is geared toward self defense whereas Muay Thai and many Tae Kwon Do schools is geared towards sports.
 
best and most effiicent for you my son is *Muay Thai* or *Kick Boxing* of the combat variety.

All the rest take MUCH longer in time to learn and to put in to affective use.

The other styles lack the one thing you really need. That is to *spar*. You can spar in Judo but you wear a Gi in the judo room and no one wears a Gi out and about, no go their. Some moves are good in real situation but we want something fast and good for this guy.

So I say do this. You learn to spar and VERY importantly you learn to get hit and be CONDITIONED for getting hit. I do Wing Chun you do not spar full contact. It wouldn't be wise with jabs, pokes to the eyes and neck. But in Muay Thai you will spar and its great. Will definately toughen you up in a fight. You get conditioned to take blows.

Also I think a lot of clubs don't take the physical aspect serioiusly enough. No matter what style you choose you will still need speed and strength. So I'd advise checking in to a gym and working out. Muay Thai I think would be great for this. You learn to fight and will get physically stronger.

Most of the more complex stuff won't work for you as it won't be second nature for you to do. Kick the guy in the shin, elbow to head. Elbow on back of back/ spine, knee to head, football kick to head, run fast. Punch, strike to neck is always good😀

BJJ is great but in a fight situation if its 1v1 its almost unbeatable. But it wouldn't be wise to go to ground then have his mate kick you in the back of your head.

Akido = like to see you put in to real use, very hard to do in real life situations. Believe that it can work only if your very trained and very experienced.

MOST important thing is the CLUB YOU ATTEND. If its crap then whatever style you'll be doing will be crap. The Sifu (teacher) is the most important thing. If hes good you will get good out of any style.
 
Originally posted by: MindStorm
i prefer the art of Smith&Wesson.
I've noticed a lot of people who say Tae Kwon Do is sh!tty is just repeating what others say. It's the most popular martial arts in the U.S. so it gets attacked a lot. Then people will bring up the fact that TKDists never win in UFC - well the UFC is geared towards big wrestlers/grapplers. Although it brags that it has very few rules, it still does...enough that you can't do most thing to end a fight quickly. I can guarantee you if kicking and breaking the knee joint is allowed, more TKDists/striking martial artists will win. Other than that, many striking artists still win - I've seen many people get knocked out cold in UFC when getting kicked in the head. And TKD is famous for its kicking. Then people attack TKD for its flashy kicks that isn't practical. True...but they ignore the basics of TKD that is very practical - side/front/spinning wheel (which is powerful as hell because of the spin...and can be used when the chance presents itself)/roundhouse/etc. Then there are the flashy kicks to impress people - and to do those, you need good athletic ability (which TKD will help you attain) that will help in a fight.

I would recommend Tae Kwon Do because of its power in its kicks. But if you want a brutal martial arts, then there is Muay Thai. I'll admit that TKD is wimpier than Muay Thai, but it isn't for everyone. Unless you know what you're getting into, I wouldn't recommend that art (sport rather). The real Muay Thai people train hours a day just to compete. Is competition is what you want; can you devote that much time; and can you constantly take full powered kicks each practice? If no, then Muay Thai isn't for you. I read that Muay Thai competitors have an average career of 3 years because they get seriously injured in competition so often. If you want to get your head bashed in or break get bones broken, then listen to the guy who says proudly says to take Muay Thai. Tae Kwon Do, although not as brutal or "manly", will still teach you how to kick VERY HARD, while having fun at tournaments that are neither too wimpy nor too brutal. And you can use what you learned in self defense because most people won't expect a kick. You will rarely ever fight with another martial artists unless you're competing. Most martial artists won't need an ego boost by picking random fights on the streets.

Tae Kwon Do takes so long to learn and isn't that great. So what, you can do a spinning kick, you will MISS against someone who knows how to fight. No way in hell would a Tae Kwon Do fighter win in any kind of competition without rules, you don't think other martial arts can do the same thing?

Muay Thai doesn't have to be brutal. You can wear shin pads and head gear. You don't have to compete and get your head bashed in.

He can also learn so many other martial arts which can be useful.
Boxing is far more effective than Tae Kwon Do. Kyokushin karate is also effective. Not like the other Karates. San Da is good.



But truthfully, I think Krav Maga or boxing is for you. Boxing is quick to learn, but if your in a street fight, don't go throwing jabs. Krav Maga is good for self defense in the street though, it's really dirty.
 
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