I want a gaming PC, i got 1100dollars

totalnewb

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Hi people,


i'm a total noob in hardware things and all, but i would like to have a gaming pc.
I have 1200dollars to spend and the only thing i need for sure is a motherboard of intel or MSI.

What i need is a
motherboard of intel or MSI,
processor,
RAM,
graphic card,
a box (i don't know how to call it :p but it is where all my components are in, the acutally container),
hard disk,

if anyone can point me in a good direction, i would be grateful!

thanks in advance!
 

totalnewb

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Thanks for the fast reply guys!

I don't need a monitor, os or a disk drive, so only what i posted above is what i need, but still thanks i'll look into it!!!

If anyone got good suggestions please tell me, thanks!
 
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totalnewb

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OK guys i checked it all out,
but i think a HDD of max 500gb is more then enough, any suggestions,
also i saw that the Cooler was pretty big, will it fit into the case you give me? and is it not better to have a cooler with water instead of a thing like that? :p
 

totalnewb

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this is what i got so far:

PROCESSOR:
Intel Core i5 2500K Boxed
Socket 1155 quad-core proc. van 3,3GHz
€ 169,80

GRAFISHE KAART: GRAPHIC CARD
Gigabyte GV-R695OC-1GD
Radeon HD6950 op 870MHz met 1GB GDDR5
€ 216,90

GEHEUGEN: MEMORY
2X G.Skill 4GB DDR3 PC3-10666 DC Kit
2X € 42,30 = € 84,60

MOEDERBORD: MOTHERBOARD
MSI Z68MA-ED55
€ 106.844053

DVD-SPELER: DVD-PLAYER
Lite-On IHAS124 Zwart
€ 18,60

HDD:
???

KAST: CASE
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan
€ 35

VOEDING: POWER SUPPLIER
Antec Earthwatts EA-500D Green
€ 70

KOELING: COOLER
Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 Heatpipe Cooler 120mm
€ 24,40

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GOT AROUND 100 dollars left, but i want max 500gig, but i don't know what cache etc it needs, i see the one you gave me is 32mb cache
but do you need this?
I would rather have less memory, so about 500GB and getting some better components, any suggestions?
 

gorcorps

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You only have $100 left? Seems like you should be able to afford both an SSD and HDD for your budget but not right now. I would definitely jump on a 1TB drive. 500gigs will go faster than you'd think and it's cheap enough. The best bang for your buck mechanical drive would be the Samsung J3 posted earlier. There's really no reason not to get one of those.
 

betasub

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Why limit yourself to 500GB if the harddrive is slower and worse value than a 1TB drive?
I can only assume you are close to your budget limit...

(And where are those Euro prices from - somewhere in the Netherlands?)
 

totalnewb

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i checked those prices at tweakers.net (and im from belgium btw)

but the reason why i think 500GB is enough, is simply because the pc will be only used "to test" games. The pc i need to make is also for an assignment for school, where the job is to develop the best game pc with a budget of around 1100-1200 dollars and the motherboard needs to be intel or MSI (no need for a mouse,keyboard,speakers,monitior,software,...)

so i think 500GB will be enough for that scenario (testing games), so i would be able to pay less for the HDD and spent more at other things maybe?

but as i also want a game pc for my own and i absolutely have no knowledge of hardware (sounds stupid, but its true xD), i think the best thing is to ask you guys and
get feedback from my teacher on the pc too, so i will have a decent one.


Thanks for the replies already!
 

mfenn

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The price delta between a 1TB drive and 500GB drive should be fairly small. The 1TB drive will be faster, unless you can guarantee that the 500GB is a new 1 platter design in which case they will be pretty much the same.

I would also see if you can get a less expensive (non-overclocked) 6950 and just overclock it yourself.
 

gorcorps

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i checked those prices at tweakers.net (and im from belgium btw)

but the reason why i think 500GB is enough, is simply because the pc will be only used "to test" games. The pc i need to make is also for an assignment for school, where the job is to develop the best game pc with a budget of around 1100-1200 dollars and the motherboard needs to be intel or MSI (no need for a mouse,keyboard,speakers,monitior,software,...)

so i think 500GB will be enough for that scenario (testing games), so i would be able to pay less for the HDD and spent more at other things maybe?

but as i also want a game pc for my own and i absolutely have no knowledge of hardware (sounds stupid, but its true xD), i think the best thing is to ask you guys and
get feedback from my teacher on the pc too, so i will have a decent one.


Thanks for the replies already!

If your task is to make the best gaming PC for that money, then if you don't get the 1TB drive you would lose, because it's not the best anymore.
 

totalnewb

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If your task is to make the best gaming PC for that money, then if you don't get the 1TB drive you would lose, because it's not the best anymore.

Ok thanks, but what is the exact reason why the 1TB is faster then the 500GB, i don't really understand that?

- Also you told me to use a intel core i5, but isn't it better to use an AMD processor? i've read at the motherboard something about AMD CrossFireX, will it work also with intel or do i need an AMD for that?

- isn't i7 better then i5???

- The GPU, does it also contain a graphic card or is a GPU just another name for it? :p

- The memory, it says dual channel kit, what does that mean???

Thanks!
 
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betasub

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The guys here have plenty of experience with budget builds. They are getting value either by finding similar performance parts for less money, or better performing parts for only slightly more money.

- The recommended 1TB drive has been shown in benchmarks (StorageReview) to be faster than the standard 500GB because of platter density. StorageReview or the main AnandTech site should be able to provide technical details. Plus the additional 500GB of storage space doesn't cost much extra over the basic 500GB drive.

- No need for Crossfire (although both AMD and Intel boards support it) for this gaming build: a single gaming card is fine.

- The i7-2600K has some advantages over the i5-2500K (mainly HT), but these aren't important enough to a budget gaming rig to pay the (considerably) higher price.

- Strictly speaking, the GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) is the graphics chip equivalent of the CPU. However, because consumers buy whole cards, not chips, it commonly refers to the graphics card (including PCB, memory, VPU, sockets etc). Some motherboards and/or CPUs have integrated GPU (low performance).

- Dual channel kit = 2 matching sticks of RAM. Most current consumer motherboards can run memory sticks in "dual channel" mode, doubling the available memory bandwidth (in theory).
 

totalnewb

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The guys here have plenty of experience with budget builds. They are getting value either by finding similar performance parts for less money, or better performing parts for only slightly more money.

- The recommended 1TB drive has been shown in benchmarks (StorageReview) to be faster than the standard 500GB because of platter density. StorageReview or the main AnandTech site should be able to provide technical details. Plus the additional 500GB of storage space doesn't cost much extra over the basic 500GB drive.

- No need for Crossfire (although both AMD and Intel boards support it) for this gaming build: a single gaming card is fine.

- The i7-2600K has some advantages over the i5-2500K (mainly HT), but these aren't important enough to a budget gaming rig to pay the (considerably) higher price.

- Strictly speaking, the GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) is the graphics chip equivalent of the CPU. However, because consumers buy whole cards, not chips, it commonly refers to the graphics card (including PCB, memory, VPU, sockets etc). Some motherboards and/or CPUs have integrated GPU (low performance).

- Dual channel kit = 2 matching sticks of RAM. Most current consumer motherboards can run memory sticks in "dual channel" mode, doubling the available memory bandwidth (in theory).

Ok thanks man that helps a lot, but about the crossfire thing, i don't understand what you mean with one single game card?
Thanks !
 
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mnewsham

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Crossfire is when you have TWO AMD GPU's in your computer and you run them in tandem. Basically you need TWO separate GPU's to use it.
 

totalnewb

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Crossfire is when you have TWO AMD GPU's in your computer and you run them in tandem. Basically you need TWO separate GPU's to use it.

Oh ok, so i got no benefit of crossfire if i only use 1 ? :D

The recommended 1TB drive has been shown in benchmarks (StorageReview) to be faster than the standard 500GB because of platter density. StorageReview or the main AnandTech site should be able to provide technical details. Plus the additional 500GB of storage space doesn't cost much extra over the basic 500GB drive.

Can anyone PLEASE, give me the benchmark, as i did found the one for 1TB, but not the one for 500GB..
Anyone can find the link to it???
1TB: http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_mt2_1tb_review_hm100ui
500GB: ?
 
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mfenn

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Oh ok, so i got no benefit of crossfire if i only use 1 ? :D

Yes, that is correct. Crossfire is the ability to use two GPUs.

Can anyone PLEASE, give me the benchmark, as i did found the one for 1TB, but not the one for 500GB..
Anyone can find the link to it???
1TB: http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_mt2_1tb_review_hm100ui
500GB: ?

"The price delta between a 1TB drive and 500GB drive should be fairly small. The 1TB drive will be faster, unless you can guarantee that the 500GB is a new 1 platter design in which case they will be pretty much the same."

Let me know what you don't understand here, and I will try to be more specific.
 

mfenn

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Hi people,

i had a discussion with a friend of mine, who has some knowledge about hardware, and he said 4GB RAM was more then enough (insteand of 8GB) also he said i would better buy this power supplier: http://www.corsair.com/power-supplies/non-modular-psus/gaming-series-1/gs600w.html

what you guys think about this???

4GB is fine for now, but the price delta is small enough that the standard recommendation is 8GB these days. That Corsair PSU is fine, but has no real advantage over the Earthwatts. Get whichever costs less.