hmmm ill hafta check into that later, and if you want that bsd icon, drop into forum issues, creat a thread asking zuni, and if you can find the icon artist guy, get together a collection of bsd images to give him, and I'll proudly switch to that from my snake. .. especially if the artist guy does one of the secure image, if you need to find that, pm me and ill make up a zip of the secure daemon, . .. i wouldn't mind prancin around in her pants. ..