I want 4GB in an Intel 875 motherboard !!??

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KoolMonkey

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Many motherboard manufacturers list 4GB as the limit for an Intel 875 based motherboard. Where does one go to get 1GB PC3200 or above DDR chips? Since it's the 875 chipset, do I have to get ECC/Non ECC, Buffered, Registered... !!?? Has anyone actually done this?

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SpeedFreak03

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WHY do u need 4GB lol? But 4GB is a limit for a lot of things, such as Windows XP, and some other hardware things. I dont think u need any special types (ECC etc), but keep in mind 1GB sticks will be expensive...
 
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dexvx

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If you want 4 GB, you need to opt for the slower PC2700 chips.

Canterwood is only rated PC2700 for 4GB, PC3200 for 2GB.
 
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dexvx, thanks for your reply. I didn't know about the PC2700 thing. I was going to get an ABIT IC7-Max3 motherboard but maybe that's not needed now since the memory will be running at DDR333. Where did you find this info out?

The application I am using needs LOTS of ram. I can't give you any more details than that. I have 6 systems all with top end P4s, graphics cards etc. and each one has 2GB of ram. It's not enough. I need a system with 4GB.

Not to be rude to anyone, but please no more "Why do you need..." questions. I need it and am thus asking your help and guidance.

The end result will be hopefully:

P4 3.2CGHz
4GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 XT
(undecided) brand of Intel 875 chipset motherboard

- km
 
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jjyiz28

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newegg as trascend 1gig. for 250. scroll al the way down.

directron has samsung 1gig for 200.
has a 8.13 record on resellerratings

both these are unbuffered. non ecc. remember, you could run ecc memory on mobo's that don't support it, it will just run it as non ecc. but you cannot run registered on an unregistered mobo no matter what.

you need unbuffered, non ecc.
 
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Ladybug7709

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its doable, a stick of 1GB pc2700 will run you around $230, not too bad if you ask me. you can do 4GB for under a grand.
 
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dexvx

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Well its the simple fact that no (reliable) memory manufacturer makes 1GB Pc3200 sticks. Since Canterwood is 4 slots, the max for PC3200 is 4x512MB = 2GB.

If your application is really memory hungry, go opt for a higher end board, namely the E7505. It has AGP Pro110 and up to 12GB of memory in 6 dimms.
 
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RaynorWolfcastle

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Is your application limited by memory size, bandwidth, or latency.

- If it's size then go for 4x1GB PC2700. You may want to consider Opterons for future expansion.
- If it's bandwidth, then you should probably wait to see how Sis' new Rambus chipsets performs as it will have much more bandwidth than even the fastest DDR modules currently available
- If it's latency, get some good, low-latency registered PC3200 to run with an AthlonFX-64 as having the memory-controller on board really helps with improve latency.

It's difficult to give you good recommendations without having more details on what exactly is limiting your current performance.

Also, I don't see what could possibly warant the use of 4 GB of RAM and a Radeon 9800XT. The 9800 is a gamer's card and you don't need 4 GB of RAM to run games. If you need the 4 GB for some professional work, odds are that you would be better served by a workstation-class card such as a FireGL or a Quattro.
 
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jjyiz28

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Why not go for an Opteron? Some of those boards support up to 8GB of memory.
 
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InlineFive

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Be careful, if you have more then three memory modules in an 865/875 you might have to disable P.A.T. because of stability problems!

-Por
 
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fkloster

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I was runing 2 GB in my 875 for awhile (4X512) PC-4000 but the stuff would only run stable to PC-3800 speeds.
 
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Yeah, another vote for opteron/A64. If you're gonna spend all that money on a system why not go for 64 bit?
 
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KoolMonkey

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thanks everyone for your replies.

This system is for gaming actually. But to clarify it's for the purposes of running multiple games at the same time.
Currently my systems with 2GB of RAM can only do so much. There's very little difference in performance from my P4 1.8 (Socket 423) 2GB PC800 RAMBUS system with a ATI Radeon 9500 Pro than my P4 3.0C, 2GB PC3200, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB system. They both can do about the same in terms of performance.

So more RAM in my particular case does equal better performance. At least that's what I'm thinking. I have a P4 2.4C, 512MB PC3500, ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, system that just plain sucks ass. The P4 1.8 destroys it.

So if I can get 4GB in a system then surely based on what I have mentioned above I must get better performance.

Dual Xeons could be an option but I don't need 2 CPUs. Can you run them with just 1? I have no problem going with an Athlon 64 or possibly FX chip but I don't know enough about them. I do know they are changing the socket for Athlon 64 very soon, so obviously I won't be buying one of them until they come out with the new one. I don't want another Socket 423 on my hands
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. But I only know what I have and used and that's currently P4s.

I'm very pleased with the ideas put forth so far. I don't have unlimited amounts of $$ so an FX I don't think is on the cards. I have to be sure the system I get is going to work for my situation. I was just going to buy 4GB of DDR and put it into my existing P4 3.0C, but then decided to go ahead and build a better system.

So please people continue with your recommendations.

- km
 
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KoolMonkey

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28


no name memory is a crapshoot. also, this seller suxors. but knock yourself out. no name 1gig sticks for less than 200 bucks sold at less than reputable sellers are a dime a dozen. should'nt be too hard to find it cheaper.
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Thanks for that. I certainly won't be buying from these guys. Turns out that STL PC Sales is actually buyaib.com and you'll laugh pretty hard when you see their disatrous rating here...

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2870.html

- km
 
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RaynorWolfcastle

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You want to run multiple games simultaneously on one PC? :confused: I think you'd get better performance and it'd probably cost about the same to just build a pair of machines, rather than try to force everything onto one machine. That is, it's cheaper and you have better performance with 2 AMD AMD 2100+ w/Radeon 9600 Pros and 1 GB RAM than a single P4 3.0C w/9800 XT and 4 GB RAM trying to run 2 games at once.
 
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magomago

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Originally posted by: KoolMonkey
dexvx, thanks for your reply. I didn't know about the PC2700 thing. I was going to get an ABIT IC7-Max3 motherboard but maybe that's not needed now since the memory will be running at DDR333. Where did you find this info out?

The application I am using needs LOTS of ram. I can't give you any more details than that. I have 6 systems all with top end P4s, graphics cards etc. and each one has 2GB of ram. It's not enough. I need a system with 4GB.

Not to be rude to anyone, but please no more "Why do you need..." questions. I need it and am thus asking your help and guidance.

The end result will be hopefully:

P4 3.2CGHz
4GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 XT
(undecided) brand of Intel 875 chipset motherboard

- km
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top secret government stuff ;) We know... we know

As for your site

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller4522.html

seem to have been good in the past- but the past 6 months they seem to have tanked a little


after reading more on the thread....

AMD said it would support the current socket940 and produce chips for both so don't worry :)
 
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jjyiz28

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would runnign multiple MMORPG's tax your 1 cpu too much?? isn't a dual procesor better for this?? along with your 4gb ram of course.
 
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magomago

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
would runnign multiple MMORPG's tax your 1 cpu too much?? isn't a dual procesor better for this?? along with your 4gb ram of course.
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/me salivates @ prospect of dual opertons wit 4gigs of ram and 9800proXT :D
 
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