I tried...

[bfdd]

Too many people equate losing weight with improving your health. Obviously if you're overweight, losing some weight is healthy, but in the long run what matters more is how you lost the weight.

Diets are stupid... all of them: South Beach, Atkins, low-this and reduced-that. The best bet to lose weight is to eat less, no matter what it is you're eating. It's also healthy to not cut parts of the food pyramid out of your diet and eat more of other parts.

Atkins' biggest sin was telling people to put down the glass of orange juice and, instead, eat a bun-less cheeseburger. Guess what... you need both the nutrients from orange juice and the protein and nutrients from beef. Just eat less of the high-calorie and high-sugar things.

But nooo.... no one wants to do that. The simplest things are almost always the right things to do. Rather than embarking on some grand reconfiguration of the foods you eat, try eating less of them if you're trying to lose weight. It's simple, it costs less, and it works.

It always amazes me when people think they can get in shape or lose weight simply by changing their diet. It can help, but you have to stay active if you want to stay healthy.

 

[MJinZ]

I just noticed the Droid actually stopped the Gentle Typhoon... I thought the camera would be much crappier than the crappiness that it is.

 

[yhelothar]

situps, stomach crunches give you a sixpack. reducing carbs just makes you leaner.

Fail. You could have the buffest abs but if you have fat covering it up, it'll just look like one fat pack.

Getting abs is 80% about getting lean, 20% about working out.

 

[zsdersw]

So, just checking here... y'all do understand that different groups of nutritional compounds do different things inside the body, yes?

And how you need certain ones more or less, depending on lifestyle, yes?

I see y'all at least understand the concept of Input should be less than or equal to Output, so I'm glad we're on the same page there.

You guys obviously have done no research in nutritional science, if all you can understand is Input vs Output. There is far more to nutrition than simply managing calories - if you have gotten away by doing that thus far, have no mental health conditions, have great joints, good skin, great flexibility and the capability to actually do anything physical without pain... then y'all are insanely lucky. Some people can simply follow extremely basic nutritional guidelines and get away with it... somehow. And I don't suggest everyone should treat eating as if it were a science, but sometimes it's a good idea to have a little more understanding of what is going on inside your body based on what you eat.

Yes, I already knew that. Nutrition isn't simple.

 

[edro]

Nuh uh!!!
I know the secrets to diet and physiology!!!
There is more than 1 way to skin a cat.

All of these approaches work for some people.

 

[mrCide]

Said the guy who obviously knows nothing of the topic. You need to read the Atkins book like I did. It is no BS. it actually works. You can drop 2 pounds a week and in the end, things like potato chips taste like sh-t to you. Nothing better in this life than a bacon and egg dinner while loosing weight.

As for abs, if you loose weight there is less fat between the skin surface and the stomach muscles. That's why abs always appear. It's not magix as you suggest but phsyics.

Did you even read my post? Atkins works because you're starving your body of carbs and going into ketosis thus burning fat for energy. It's not a healthy diet, it's a piece of shit one particularly for the fact that you'll gain the weight back if you stop doing it, and die an early death if you stay on it for life. Enjoy your massive amounts of saturated fats fatty.

Yes, as for abs, if you cut your body fat percentage down they will show, it's called losing weight, which doesn't happen magically because you cut out less nutritional carbs if you were paying attention to my post, which you weren't.

 

[zsdersw]

Whether you die from a heart attack brought on by obesity or a heart attack caused by saturated fats from lifelong Atkins dieting, you're just as dead.

The better option? Avoid branded diets and take everything in moderation.

 

[SP33Demon]

It always amazes me when people think they can get in shape or lose weight simply by changing their diet. It can help, but you have to stay active if you want to stay healthy.

Um, actually you can easily lose weight by changing your diet - where have you been? If you count calories and take in less than BMR you are guaranteed to lose weight. The problem is that most aren't willing to count calories. Exercise is optional and just a) helps create a better caloric deficit, b) increases muscle mass which burns calories fastest, and c) strengthens heart/circulation + increases bone density which is never a bad thing.

Next, all this talk about refined carbs being "bad" is utter bullsht. I had an ex who only ate refined carbs (pizza, pasta, candy, sugar cereal in the morning) and had a banging bod because she stayed under BMR caloric intake and by exercising like a fiend for 1 hour a day. The only problem with this strategy was that if she did go over her BMR caloric intake she would gain weight very fast vs someone who eats unrefined carbs (veggies, high fiber - won't gain at such a rapid rate). If you don't overextend yourself on caloric intake, you can eat whatever the fck you want. Are fruits and veggies healthier? Absolutely because they have more nutritional value but let's cut the crap on refined carbs being bad. It's only bad for people who lack self control or the will to count calories (probably 98% of America). We are our own worst enemies.

 

[MJinZ]

Um, actually you can easily lose weight by changing your diet - where have you been? If you count calories and take in less than BMR you are guaranteed to lose weight. The problem is that most aren't willing to count calories. Exercise is optional and just a) helps create a better caloric deficit, b) increases muscle mass which burns calories fastest, and c) strengthens heart/circulation + increases bone density which is never a bad thing.

Next, all this talk about refined carbs being "bad" is utter bullsht. I had an ex who only ate refined carbs (pizza, pasta, candy, sugar cereal in the morning) and had a banging bod because she stayed under BMR caloric intake and by exercising like a fiend for 1 hour a day. The only problem with this strategy was that if she did go over her BMR caloric intake she would gain weight very fast vs someone who eats unrefined carbs (veggies, high fiber - won't gain at such a rapid rate). If you don't overextend yourself on caloric intake, you can eat whatever the fck you want. Are fruits and veggies healthier? Absolutely because they have more nutritional value but let's cut the crap on refined carbs being bad. It's only bad for people who lack self control or the will to count calories (probably 98% of America). We are our own worst enemies.

PRetty sure refined carbs are worse for you than unrefined because they jump your blood sugar and don't provide lasting energy while giving you lots of calories...

 

[destrekor]

Whether you die from a heart attack brought on by obesity or a heart attack caused by saturated fats from lifelong Atkins dieting, you're just as dead.

The better option? Avoid branded diets and take everything in moderation.

Just got a question for you... do you know what fatty acids are?

Do you know how to determine what types of high-fat foods are good to eat, even daily, in comparison to other high-fat foods?

Do you know some high-fat foods are actually very, very good for you, especially daily or every other day?

I don't like to eat much saturated fat, or trans-unsat fat... it's all about the cis-fat (cis-isomer unsaturated fatty acids).

You can have a diet that's high in fat, but low in saturated and trans fat. Mono and polyunsaturated fatty acids also tend to be found in some of the tastiest food sources (except sea life... I can't eat the fishy-tasting creatures from the sea).

You really shouldn't be getting much more than 30% of your diet from fat, so you shouldn't eat only fat all day.
But numerous studies have shown that a diet high in mono- and polyunsaturated fatty acids can provide numerous physiological benefits.

But the other issue, and this is very typical here in the U.S., you have to actually know what types of unsaturated fat is in the food.
The wrong ratio of the assorted Omega Fatty Acids can lead to little benefit, and worse, some bad overall health. The typical American diet, concerning Omega 6 and 9, is somewhere between two and six times that intake of Omega 3.
At worst, we should be consuming an amount of Omega 3 that is equal to our intake of Omega 6 and 9 (combined)... it would be better if we would consume more Omega 3 than all the other Omega fatty acids combined.

Meat used to be a terrific source of Omega 3, but the typical bovine diet at large farms these days, is chock full of relatively empty nutrition - grains of assorted types that end up being relatively low in short-chain Omega 3s. Wild grazing in open fields of natural grasses can provide meat for us that is more nutritious.

Omega-type fatty acids are incredibly beneficial, when consumed in the right ratios... lower LDL, raise HDL, very unlikely to lead to plaque formation (cis-isomers are awesome like that), and they are also exactly what is necessary for healthy cellular construction. Omega 3s are extremely important in neural construction and repair, and a decent theory proposes that low Omega 3 consumption during our youth may be the smoking gun for all sorts of mental health issues (and increasing Omega 3 intake, over a period of a year or two, has shown improvement in some youths with behavioral problems, like ADD and Depression).

With the right ratio of Omega-type fat consumption, the intake of saturated fat has a reduced impact. That's fairly good news, considering most sources of unsaturated fat also contain some saturated fat. It's not unhealthy to get some, it's just the fact that eating too much can cause health problems.

When we live in a world of fairly unnatural food products, food that is highly-processed, simply eating to fulfill the requirements of eating is not smart enough.. unless one does not care about being extremely healthy.

In some regions of the world, the common cultural diet actually leads to very good nutrition, but I cannot imagine anyone would dare say that about the American culture. When the food all around you is a far cry from the natural ratios of nutritive components, you have to stop and think a little bit.

For a country that has some of the easiest access to quality nourishment, we have arguably what might be the worst collective health in the world.
Tell me that doesn't cause alarm, that we needn't worry about stopping to think about it for a moment.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

It always amazes me when people think they can get in shape or lose weight simply by changing their diet. It can help, but you have to stay active if you want to stay healthy.

You can be in decent shape with just diet and a small amount of exercise. Diet plays the biggest part in controlling ones weight. I chuckle at fatties that think walking a bit is going to fix their extra 50 pounds. You have to go crazy on exercise for diet to matter less. I've gone from 215 to 120... 215 to 150 was pure diet, and I only exercise now because I'm forced to (in the air force). I have some idea of how much of a role diet plays : p

 

[zsdersw]

Just got a question for you... do you know what fatty acids are?

Yes

Do you know how to determine what types of high-fat foods are good to eat, even daily, in comparison to other high-fat foods?

Yes. As an example, most nuts are high in mono- and poly-unsaturated fats and are good to eat daily.

Do you know some high-fat foods are actually very, very good for you, especially daily or every other day?

Yes. Nuts like walnuts, pecans, almonds, cashews, etc.

Fish like salmon and tuna (as well as a lot of other seafood) are pretty high in fat too, yet are good for you, and good to eat daily.

What you may not have realized is that I specified saturated fat in my comment, not all fat.

Trans-fats are even worse for you than saturated fat, which is why foods that naturally have higher saturated fat (dairy) are better for you than their processed alternatives that often have trans-fats (margarine, etc.)

 

[weadjust]

What we have here is a "Situation". Now go tan and do your laundry.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

destrekor I think you are one of the few people on here who knows your shit. Reading your posts makes me feel like Im sitting in my physiological science class again.

 

[coreyb]

you're banned from raviolli night

 

[alkemyst]

Jesus, I didn't realize that picture was MJinZ. Great, now I need to go pour bleach in my eyes.

damn he talks a good game for that kind of figure.

OP...most really won't listen to a thing you say about diet when you still look like you need one.

I don't bother really avoiding shit. In the end it's really the portions you pick. If you commonly down a full pound box of Ronzoni and a can of Prego as a dinner along with a half dozen buttered rolls and a side salad with a 1/8 cup of thousand island...you are going to get fat.

If you do it once in a while, probably will have no effect long term.

I get lazy though, in 3 months I can totally transform my appearance the way many take a year or more to do.