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Lifer
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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Evan
Smart money is on Obama winning between 353 and 406 electoral votes.


lol, i'll take the under.

It's funny that you can't make snide remarks about how great McCain is and how he's going to win anymore, so now, like a 4 year old, you've found something new. "HA you dummy! My candidate won't lose by NEARLY as much as you think!!!"

lol, you post might have merit if I ever supported McCain.
Who do you support?

Conservatives.
Maybe you can tell me then.. since Conservatives are the worst motherfuckers on the planet with money, what is it they are conservative about?

You are obviously confused. Just because someone has a (R) behind their name means that they are Conservative. You need to understand the distinction. It's something that a lot of libs here(and even some so-called independents) need to understand as well but won't for varying reasons.
 
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Conservatives.

I'll likely vote Barr or write in RP2 as a protest tomorrow since the national choice is a RINO vs far left Liberal.

McCain isn't a "RINO" (a term I detest). He has maintained one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate for decades. The fact that he hasn't always toadied to the lunatic fringe of your party doesn't change that. I happen to believe McCain would, if he were elected, be the perfect person to wrest the party back from the anti-idea religious ideologues (of whom, ironically enough, his running mate is one) and set it on a sane course for the next generation (as opposed to our current "conservative" President, who is perhaps the MOST profligate spender in the history of the office). Sadly for the Rs in the audience, that won't happen, and the Republicans will be left hoping for the next Newt to show some leadership in the midterm elections.

Who would you have had the party nominate, Romney? I think they picked their best candidate (admittedly out of a not-stellar field).
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

I'll likely vote Barr or write in RP2 as a protest tomorrow since the national choice is a RINO vs far left Liberal.

Who/what is RP2 and RINO?

RP2 = Ron Paul (RP1 = Ross Perot)

RINO = Republican In Name Only

I can't believe you don't know what a RINO is....
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Conservatives.

I'll likely vote Barr or write in RP2 as a protest tomorrow since the national choice is a RINO vs far left Liberal.

McCain isn't a "RINO" (a term I detest). He has maintained one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate for decades. The fact that he hasn't always toadied to the lunatic fringe of your party doesn't change that. I happen to believe McCain would, if he were elected, be the perfect person to wrest the party back from the anti-idea religious ideologues (of whom, ironically enough, his running mate is one) and set it on a sane course for the next generation. Sadly for the Rs in the audience, that won't happen, and the Republicans will be left hoping for the next Newt to show some leadership in the midterm elections. Who would you have had the party nominate, Romney? I think they picked their best candidate (admittedly out of a not-stellar field).

:laugh: If you say so :roll:

blah blah blah same old talking points from the left...

Now sure, there are things he is Conservative on but that doesn't make him a Conservative. Nor should Conservatives vote for him.

Romney? Are you insane? He's worse than McCain.
 
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:laugh: If you say so :roll:

blah blah blah same old talking points from the left...

Now sure, there are things he is Conservative on but that doesn't make him a Conservative. Nor should Conservatives vote for him.

Romney? Are you insane? He's worse than McCain.

Honestly, what the hell are you talking about? I've begun to think you don't know anything about your own party, and perhaps that's why your posts have more emoticons than original ideas. In what way is McCain less "conservative" than Bush, other than a handful of social issues which will never have any relevance to his governance anyway (and which Bush paid lip service to without actually doing anything about it)?

Knock yourself out voting for Barr in the knowledge that you're throwing your vote away and that your party is going down in flames. I think that warrants a :laugh: for good measure.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:laugh: If you say so :roll:

blah blah blah same old talking points from the left...

Now sure, there are things he is Conservative on but that doesn't make him a Conservative. Nor should Conservatives vote for him.

Romney? Are you insane? He's worse than McCain.

Honestly, what the hell are you talking about? I've begun to think you don't know anything about your own party, and perhaps that's why your posts have more emoticons than original ideas. In what way is McCain less "conservative" than Bush, other than a handful of social issues which will never have any relevance to his governance anyway (and which Bush paid lip service to without actually doing anything about it)?

Knock yourself out voting for Barr in the knowledge that you're throwing your vote away and that your party is going down in flames. I think that warrants a :laugh: for good measure.

What I'm talking about is responding to a question posed about who I support(due to yet another one of you who doesn't understand politics and think that not supporting BHO means I support McCain). I support Conservatives. Neither BHO nor McCain qualify and thus do not get my support.
I am going to make my vote count as a protest against the GOP. You'd know that by now if you paid attention to my posts. I tried pragmatism the last 2 times and got burned. Maybe this time the GOP will wake up and start putting Conservatives up for election in their party.
 
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

What I'm talking about is responding to a question posed about who I support(due to yet another one of you who doesn't understand politics and think that not supporting BHO means I support McCain). I support Conservatives. Neither BHO nor McCain qualify and thus do not get my support.
I am going to make my vote count as a protest against the GOP. You'd know that by now if you paid attention to my posts. I tried pragmatism the last 2 times and got burned. Maybe this time the GOP will wake up and start putting Conservatives up for election in their party.

In what sense is McCain not conservative? What is it you're looking for that he isn't providing? It seems to me that your "scruples" about conservatism reflect the sad desire not to vote for a loser. He's a vastly better candidate than any your party has run in the past 16 years, and certainly more fiscally conservative than President Bush.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

What I'm talking about is responding to a question posed about who I support(due to yet another one of you who doesn't understand politics and think that not supporting BHO means I support McCain). I support Conservatives. Neither BHO nor McCain qualify and thus do not get my support.
I am going to make my vote count as a protest against the GOP. You'd know that by now if you paid attention to my posts. I tried pragmatism the last 2 times and got burned. Maybe this time the GOP will wake up and start putting Conservatives up for election in their party.

In what sense is McCain not conservative? What is it you're looking for that he isn't providing? It seems to me that your "scruples" about conservatism reflect the sad desire not to vote for a loser. He's a vastly better candidate than any your party has run in the past 16 years, and certainly more fiscally conservative than President Bush.

In what sense is he Conservative in your mind?(not the mind of a Conservative)

No, McCain inevitable loss has nothing to do with my willingness. Hell, Bush was supposed to lose in 2K and 2K4... :roll:
The only thing you have is a small bit of fiscal responsibility since he has a clear record against pork/earmarks. That piece alone does not make him Conservative.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Conservatives.

I'll likely vote Barr or write in RP2 as a protest tomorrow since the national choice is a RINO vs far left Liberal.

McCain isn't a "RINO" (a term I detest). He has maintained one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate for decades. The fact that he hasn't always toadied to the lunatic fringe of your party doesn't change that. I happen to believe McCain would, if he were elected, be the perfect person to wrest the party back from the anti-idea religious ideologues (of whom, ironically enough, his running mate is one) and set it on a sane course for the next generation. Sadly for the Rs in the audience, that won't happen, and the Republicans will be left hoping for the next Newt to show some leadership in the midterm elections. Who would you have had the party nominate, Romney? I think they picked their best candidate (admittedly out of a not-stellar field).

:laugh: If you say so :roll:

blah blah blah same old talking points from the left...

Now sure, there are things he is Conservative on but that doesn't make him a Conservative. Nor should Conservatives vote for him.

Romney? Are you insane? He's worse than McCain.

romney and mccain are probably the most standard conservatives to run this year, in the nixon/goldwater/reagan/hwbush line.
 

extra

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Conservatives.

I'll likely vote Barr or write in RP2 as a protest tomorrow since the national choice is a RINO vs far left Liberal.

McCain isn't a "RINO" (a term I detest). He has maintained one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate for decades. The fact that he hasn't always toadied to the lunatic fringe of your party doesn't change that. I happen to believe McCain would, if he were elected, be the perfect person to wrest the party back from the anti-idea religious ideologues (of whom, ironically enough, his running mate is one) and set it on a sane course for the next generation. Sadly for the Rs in the audience, that won't happen, and the Republicans will be left hoping for the next Newt to show some leadership in the midterm elections. Who would you have had the party nominate, Romney? I think they picked their best candidate (admittedly out of a not-stellar field).

:laugh: If you say so :roll:

blah blah blah same old talking points from the left...

Now sure, there are things he is Conservative on but that doesn't make him a Conservative. Nor should Conservatives vote for him.

Romney? Are you insane? He's worse than McCain.

romney and mccain are probably the most standard conservatives to run this year, in the nixon/goldwater/reagan/hwbush line.

I'm a bit confused maybe I misunderstood you but are you implying Nixon was a conservative? Because honestly Nixon was more of a liberal, he wouldn't have fit into today's republican party in any way except for his lack of ethics.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: extra
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Conservatives.

I'll likely vote Barr or write in RP2 as a protest tomorrow since the national choice is a RINO vs far left Liberal.

McCain isn't a "RINO" (a term I detest). He has maintained one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate for decades. The fact that he hasn't always toadied to the lunatic fringe of your party doesn't change that. I happen to believe McCain would, if he were elected, be the perfect person to wrest the party back from the anti-idea religious ideologues (of whom, ironically enough, his running mate is one) and set it on a sane course for the next generation. Sadly for the Rs in the audience, that won't happen, and the Republicans will be left hoping for the next Newt to show some leadership in the midterm elections. Who would you have had the party nominate, Romney? I think they picked their best candidate (admittedly out of a not-stellar field).

:laugh: If you say so :roll:

blah blah blah same old talking points from the left...

Now sure, there are things he is Conservative on but that doesn't make him a Conservative. Nor should Conservatives vote for him.

Romney? Are you insane? He's worse than McCain.

romney and mccain are probably the most standard conservatives to run this year, in the nixon/goldwater/reagan/hwbush line.

I'm a bit confused maybe I misunderstood you but are you implying Nixon was a conservative? Because honestly Nixon was more of a liberal, he wouldn't have fit into today's republican party in any way except for his lack of ethics.
LOL! Too true.

 

Double Trouble

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Polls usually tighten during the last few days because the media tries to make the race closer so they get more viewers. This time around the media's been in the fold with Obama from the start, they don't want to see a close election.
 
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
In what sense is he Conservative in your mind?(not the mind of a Conservative)

No, McCain inevitable loss has nothing to do with my willingness. Hell, Bush was supposed to lose in 2K and 2K4... :roll:
The only thing you have is a small bit of fiscal responsibility since he has a clear record against pork/earmarks. That piece alone does not make him Conservative.

He is and always has been a small-government, low-tax, pro-military, pro-civil liberties guy with an inclination toward foreign-policy activism. He favors states' rights and a limited federal government. He has been one of the most solidly conservative Senators for decades. He is obviously capable of independent thought (something with has not endeared him to the party in recent years), and departs from the party line at times, but IMO he is the most solidly conservative Republican presidential candidate in many years, and certainly since Reagan.

Other than McCain's age (and his absurd VP pick) I don't think your party could have picked a better post-Bush candidate. While it's certainly possible the economy will founder in the next four years and Obama will be blamed for it, at this point I don't see any really strong Republican candidate in 2012, and with the growing Hispanic population in this country it will become harder, not easier, for Republicans to be elected in coming years. We shall see . . .