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I thought the left was racially sensitive...

The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
 
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
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first one has nothing to do with being black but being ignorant
second one is a comic version of her as a parrot, has nothing to do with race, this is how comic writers work, take specific character identities and enhance them 300%
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
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first one has nothing to do with being black but being ignorant
second one is a comic version of her as a parrot, has nothing to do with race, this is how comic writers work, take specific character identities and enhance them 300%
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Yow will have to take my word on the first one. I live in the south and depicting a black person saying "I knows" is clearly derogatory towards blacks. The second one could be iffy. My point is where is the uproar from the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world.
 
Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
Click to expand...

first one has nothing to do with being black but being ignorant
second one is a comic version of her as a parrot, has nothing to do with race, this is how comic writers work, take specific character identities and enhance them 300%
Click to expand...

Yow will have to take my word on the first one. I live in the south and depicting a black person saying "I knows" is clearly derogatory towards blacks. The second one could be iffy. My point is where is the uproar from the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world.
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do only blacks use "i knows" ?
 
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
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The first depicts invalid stereotypes but the 2nd one is dead on!

Rice is a freakin' parrot. And, she does have very prominent front teeth. Never heard of lampooning?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
Click to expand...

first one has nothing to do with being black but being ignorant
second one is a comic version of her as a parrot, has nothing to do with race, this is how comic writers work, take specific character identities and enhance them 300%
Click to expand...

Yow will have to take my word on the first one. I live in the south and depicting a black person saying "I knows" is clearly derogatory towards blacks. The second one could be iffy. My point is where is the uproar from the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world.
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do only blacks use "i knows" ?
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Yes, for the most part but you rarely hear that much anymore. View some older movies from the 30's and 40's and you will typically see the black characters dialogue consist of "I knows" and "yessums" etc. Many of these films are considered rasict now although they were accepted back then. I know its hard to prove but I can only relay personal experience. I lived in a poor county in Tennessee and traveled to even poorer counties. I've come across many uneducated elderly white southerners and can assure they do not use that term. Most left school in the sixth grade to work on the farm. This type of language depicted in the cartoon is meant to depict Condoleeza Rice as an uneducated black person. Sorry but its difficult to explain to someone in Iceland.

And I will also have you know you have caused me to go over my self madated 2 post daily limit in P&N.
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: rudder
" I knows all about aluminum tubes"

Whats with this caricature?

Brown Sugar?

If you don't like the woman fine, attack her on her policy not on her race. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson when you need them?
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I think you're paranoid.
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And inflammatory.


Quit reading something into it that is not there. Have you ever heard of "Gone With The Wind"?

The 1st one is a reference to "I don't know nothin' about birthin' babies."


Let's burn some books?

 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
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The first depicts invalid stereotypes but the 2nd one is dead on!

Rice is a freakin' parrot. And, she does have very prominent front teeth. Never heard of lampooning?
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I've already pointed out the second one is iffy. BUt using "i knows" and brown sugar is racist. If I submitted a cartoon depicted Jesse Jackson as a typical black person with a bastard child for example, him and Al Sharpton would be all over me like stink on sh*t. Where is the outrage?

okay enough fun in p&n this morning. back to OT.
 
Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: rudder
The language in the first strip uses the term "I knows" which is showing Condoleeza Rice as an ignorant black southerner. The second caricature, she is depicted with big lips and buck teeth which can be seen as being racist.
Click to expand...

first one has nothing to do with being black but being ignorant
second one is a comic version of her as a parrot, has nothing to do with race, this is how comic writers work, take specific character identities and enhance them 300%
Click to expand...

Yow will have to take my word on the first one. I live in the south and depicting a black person saying "I knows" is clearly derogatory towards blacks. The second one could be iffy. My point is where is the uproar from the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world.
Click to expand...

do only blacks use "i knows" ?
Click to expand...

Yes, for the most part but you rarely hear that much anymore. View some older movies from the 30's and 40's and you will typically see the black characters dialogue consist of "I knows" and "yessums" etc. Many of these films are considered rasict now although they were accepted back then. I know its hard to prove but I can only relay personal experience. I lived in a poor county in Tennessee and traveled to even poorer counties. I've come across many uneducated elderly white southerners and can assure they do not use that term. Most left school in the sixth grade to work on the farm. This type of language depicted in the cartoon is meant to depict Condoleeza Rice as an uneducated black person. Sorry but its difficult to explain to someone in Iceland.

And I will also have you know you have caused me to go over my self madated 2 post daily limit in P&N.
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If I remember correctly then bubba in Forest Gump said "I knows", was that movie racist? What about when ordinary white people are shown as rednecks or hicks, is that racism?
It is true, this is something I personaly dont see as racist because I have not witnessed it first hand, but I'm trying to understand 🙂

and yes, you are becoming trapped in the p&n quicksand 🙂

 
I've always loved doonesbury, and I don't know if there was any intent involved here, but we've created a very high standard for avoidance of racially motivated insults, or even the appearance of these.
To be fair I would associate "brown sugar" with attractive black women, not uneducated or stupid ones. That notwithstanding, I think this probably crosses the line.
 
The first & 3rd cartoons, were the text uttered in the workplace would get you in trouble in the wrong setting.

They're racial...

The 2nd one is fair politics though.
 
I don't know if I'm way off base here, but read it again: to me, it seems like Condi is calling Bush " Brown Sugar".
 
The news would be all over this if it were Clinton and a black appointee depicted there. And yes, it is rather racist in that it over emphasizes on stereotypical African American slurs/racial characteristics.
 
I tend to agree with the OP that one and three are condescending racially and sexually.

But on the "brown sugar" issue, is there a reason for putting "brown sugar" in quotes in the script ? Is it perhaps a phrase Bush has actually used ?

And the comment is coming from the Bush character in the comic, which to me means Trudeau isn't making the insensitive remark himself, but is commenting on what he sees as Bush's insencerity in appointing blacks and or women to high posts. I don't necessarily agree with him, but it isn't "racist" on Trudeau's part to have that view of Bush.


 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The 1st & 3rd cross the line.

WTF is the matter with Trudeau? I don't recall him taking a shot like that before.
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I've seen that it is very clear that he has gone from pissed to totally outrageously angered at the 51% sheep of America. Can you blame him???
 
What, we need racists to come and defend us from racists?

If you want to see real "Policy" racism in action, look no further than Affirmative Action.

Jason

Originally posted by: rudder
If you don't like the woman fine, attack her on her policy not on her race. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson when you need them?
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