I thought allen ginsberg was supposed to be a thoughtful guy

[dpopiz]

but http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5383875

 

[Perknose]

So sorry this visionary poet doesn't conform to your particular mainstream social and political prejudices. Maybe George Bernard Shaw can enlighten you:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man."

-GBH

 

[dpopiz]

Originally posted by: Perknose
So sorry this visionary poet doesn't conform to your particular mainstream social and political prejudices. Maybe George Bernard Shaw can enlighten you:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man."

-GBH

that didn't answer my question at all...


did you listen to the audio clip?

sure his poetry is nice, but he sounds kind of dumb in that conversation

 

[Whisper]

Haven't listed to the clip yet, but I will say this: poetry is art, and as such calls for a much different thought process than that required for a structured debate.

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: dpopiz
did you listen to the audio clip?

sure his poetry is nice, but he sounds kind of dumb in that conversation

The OP apparently has some sort of rant / specific point of view in mind which I think he should go ahead and spell out himself.

There's nothing in the talk in itself that made Ginsberg seem unintelligent or unthoughtful to me, quite the opposite... I don't agree with his position in totality, and find myself agreeing with his father in points, but that's neither here nor there.

Go ahead and have your rant, OP.