I think I should buy a GTO

[Triumph]

All arguments about the looks aside (completely subjective and I happen to think it looks great), why shouldn't I buy one? I'm getting tired of my 93000 mile Passat. So first I started looking at BMW's. Well, they're expensive. $22k will get you into a 2001 330i with 70,000 miles. That is not much younger or more powerful than my current car. I'd be paying a pretty penny to get a better looking, better handling car that would have about the same reliability.

So then I sat in a GTO at the DC auto show. The car had a very high quality feel, better than the new Mustang, any of the Dodges, or even the Mazdas. The seats are awesome, the leather feels great, it's 350-400 hp, 6 speed, rear wheel drive, independent suspension, and the kicker... used prices are hovering around $21-23k. And that's for cars with less than 10k miles. That's practically brand new.

So the BMW may handle better, look better, be more exclusive, but it's got nowhere near the power or the value. And I just can't think of any other cars out there that can compete with the value of a GTO. So the question is, should I find a nice used example and pull the trigger? Hmmm...

 

[Atheus]

Clarkson from top gear (you get that in the US right?) has one, he always goes on about it being unreliable, always back at ford for repairs, as well as massively inefficient.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: Atheus
Clarkson from top gear (you get that in the US right?) has one, he always goes on about it being unreliable, always back at ford for repairs, as well as massively inefficient.

I thought that was his Ford GT? I think the OP is talking about a Pontiac GTO.

 

[Goosemaster]

It was good idea with a good overall feature package but it ended up as just another oil stain on the GM production line


<---pissed off because he really wanted one until the complaints started, and then the depreciation complaints started....


edit: exaggerting as well

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: Atheus
Clarkson from top gear (you get that in the US right?) has one, he always goes on about it being unreliable, always back at ford for repairs, as well as massively inefficient.

I thought that was his Ford GT? I think the OP is talking about a Pontiac GTO.

yeah lol i doubt hes bringing his GM Pontiac car to Ford for repairs... why even post?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
It was good idea with a good overall feature package but it ended up as just another oil stain on the GM production line


<---pissed off because he really wanted one until the complaints started, and then the depreciation complaints started....


edit: exaggerting as well

What complaints? Cause I'm sure not complaining about the depreciation!

I looked up the completed auctions on ebay. 43 results, only like 4 of them were actually sold! Most of them didn't meet the reserve, I'd say about 20 of them had bids and they were only willing to go up to 18-19k. A 2005 with the 400hp LS2 went for $21k. This depreciation is awesome if I kept the car for the long haul.

 

[Goosemaster]

seriosuly though a GTO is a ncie novelty car in that it has so much power and is quite decent on the track for what it is.

the bmw is still worth the money though.

In the end you decide, but I spoke to guy who buy cars in bulk for dealships and they pay a LOT less than $20k for those.


If anything, I actually liek the understated look of it, but the profile is find of dissapointing no matter how you look at it....in peripheral you be hard pressed to differentiate it from a cavalier...

 

[state 08]

Top Gear was very impressed with it.

Here it is being abused by professional drifters: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1736672447988253834&q=top+gear+gto

After watching that video, I wanted it in a heartbeat.

 

[Goosemaster]

dude...jsut wait a while and get the 2005 for chump change (in comparison)

the 2005 is a beautiful machine...

 

[Goosemaster]

Keep in mind that in the past I have said that I love it and I jsut got back from a 12+ hour workday

 

[sniperruff]

it's a muscle car. look elsewhere if you want a sports car.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's a muscle car. look elsewhere if you want a sports car.

:thumbsup:

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Atheus
Clarkson from top gear (you get that in the US right?) has one, he always goes on about it being unreliable, always back at ford for repairs, as well as massively inefficient.

Please don't ever post in a car thread again.

 

[FrozenCanadian]

If you mean the Pontiac GTO then I'd say no way (its one ugly car). If you mean the Mitsubishi 3000gt then hell ya.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: FrozenCanadian
If you mean the Pontiac GTO then I'd say no way (its one ugly car). If you mean the Mitsubishi 3000gt then hell ya.

and you think GM has reliability issues...

 

[FrozenCanadian]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: FrozenCanadian
If you mean the Pontiac GTO then I'd say no way (its one ugly car). If you mean the Mitsubishi 3000gt then hell ya.

and you think GM has reliability issues...

I doubt GM has reliabilty issues it just that the Mitsubishi 3000gt is a much nicer looking car.

 

[mooncancook]

If you are willing to give up some comfort and luxury and two rear doors then I think GTO is a great car. It's the best looking Pontiac out there IMO, especially with some nice 18" aftermarket wheels. I've seen the drifter GTO too it's awesome. I think it's a nice car that'll get you some compliments. But personally I pick an used 04 STi over it because it's quicker, handles better, got AWD, and 4 doors, but then you'll probably pay at least 4k more for a low mi one, and STi styling is more controversial i guess.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: FrozenCanadian

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: FrozenCanadian
If you mean the Pontiac GTO then I'd say no way (its one ugly car). If you mean the Mitsubishi 3000gt then hell ya.

and you think GM has reliability issues...

I doubt GM has reliabilty issues it just that the Mitsubishi 3000gt is a much nicer looking car.

the 3000 GT is going to be 8+ years old in order to find a low priced one. then you are going to be replacing trannys left and right, while other odds n ends implode and explode on you...

 

[scauffiel]

I like mine.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: mooncancook
If you are willing to give up some comfort and luxury and two rear doors then I think GTO is a great car. It's the best looking Pontiac out there IMO, especially with some nice 18" aftermarket wheels. I've seen the drifter GTO too it's awesome. I think it's a nice car that'll get you some compliments. But personally I pick an used 04 STi over it because it's quicker, handles better, got AWD, and 4 doors, but then you'll probably pay at least 4k more for a low mi one, and STi styling is more controversial i guess.

insurance on the GTO is going to be a LOT less than an STI.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: Atheus
Clarkson from top gear (you get that in the US right?) has one, he always goes on about it being unreliable, always back at ford for repairs, as well as massively inefficient.

Do you know what those "repairs" where? His stupid alarm system that he bought from Roush that keeps alerting ford if it's stolen and shuts it down. So ford keeps calling him.

Also is a huge car that would fit perfectly in the US but on the sh**ty roads in the UK it doesn't fit anywhere.

 

[gooseman]

Wait and save your money for one of these

 

[Tom]

Depreciation is a plus, not a negative, if your looking at buying a used one. The 2005 has quite a bit more horsepower over the 2004, so a 2004 ought to cost a lot less.


And there's something to be said for a car that looks like a Cavalier, but has 400 hp !

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: Atheus
Clarkson from top gear (you get that in the US right?) has one, he always goes on about it being unreliable, always back at ford for repairs, as well as massively inefficient.

I thought that was his Ford GT? I think the OP is talking about a Pontiac GTO.

yeah lol i doubt hes bringing his GM Pontiac car to Ford for repairs... why even post?

agreed, banned from ever posting in a car thread ever again.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

This is the model I plan on trading my mustang in for when my vette's paid off:

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_i...ngine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=45

Sporty but nothing amazing. Roomy good people mover. Also in case that I might actually *gasp* get a GF.

You can buy a used C5 corvette like I did. If you can get over the "Made by GM" haters.