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I think I am screwed--Please advise

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Razorbacks

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I have a old P100 that has some equally old data. I recently built a Tbird 850 and it works great. I have tried to get the data off the old p100, but every time I have tried to set it up as a slave, it does not recognise. I did an fdisk and it said that the drive had "non-DOS partitions", but I know that it does. It is a 20 GB with 10 2GB partiitons.
Up to yesterday, it was giving me the choice to boot between Win98 (which is where the data really is) and WinNT.

Now, it goes strait into WinNT and gives me a message that it cannot find an operating system.
I'm probably screwed, but would like to get my old data--It is my wifes!
Thanks
 
if you have a 20gb hdd on a p100 it's probably using some sort of disk manager software. if so, when you try to slave it the partitions will show up as nondos (because they are). your best bet is to do as above and get a zip drive, or network them together..

~erik
 
Or of course you can mount the old drive as primary in the new machine, mount the main drive of the new machine as slave, boot to the old OS (I'd do safe or DOS mode to avoid driver / hardware detect probs), copy over the data, swap the drives back, and done!

LevcoS
 
You can uninstall the disk drive manager software off of the drive before you put it into your other system. If you cant, just run fdisk /mbr on the drive before you put it into the new system.
 
NOOOOOOO!!!

Don't run fdisk /mbr on a drive that is currently using disk manager software. You will surely lose the data - been there done that - both by accident and on purpose.
 
Motorheader is right- if you uninstall boot manager or fdisk/MBR that disk before you get your data off it, that data is gone FOREVER! So be careful!

LevcoS
 
It would be helpful to know what this disk was partitioned with, wether its Ontrack, Bigdisk, or whatever...some of these use a unique way of organizing data that won't be seen properly if the mbr is messed up for some reason....if you could get a boot disk for whichever system it is, that might help.
Unfortunately, if the mbr on a system like this is somehow changed or corrupted, its usually not possible to recover anything if you don't have the software.
 
Ok--I have not had time to mess with it since we are in a snowstorm. I cannot get the thing to boot. It does post and immediately goes into Winnt loading. It does not finish loading, actually only gets one to two seconds into it.
Again--if I fdisk and look at the partition info, it says that they have non-dos partitions.
Next step???
 
WinNT 4.0 does not support FAT32. It only supports FAT16 and NTFS.

Your first goal should be to get your WinNT system functional again. Remove the Win98 drive from your WinNT system and work on getting WinNT to boot.

Then get the Win98 drive to function in its native P100 system. Safe-mode operation is good enough.

You'll probably need some good utilities to restore your master boot record if they are damaged. MS Scandisk is NOT an option since it does not give you control over changes it makes. Norton Utilities DiskDoctor gives you the option to make a backup of items to be altered. There are many other more powerful utilities availiable.

You may also need PartitionMagic to manipulate your partitions between FAT32, FAT16, and NTFS, and/or primary and logical.

Once you have your WinNT system operational, you need to look for ways to transfer the data from the Win98 drive to the WinNT drive. You can network the two systems together via cables, write the data to removable media such as floppies, zips, cds, etc., or try the slave drive method again.

If you want to try to hook the Win98 drive as a slave in the WinNT system, then you should first convert the Win98 drive's partitions to FAT16 with PartitionMagic. You should then be able to boot into WinNT and transfer the data.
 

what does NT say when it fails to load? what does your current harddrive setup look like without the p100 harddrive? if you have 10 2gig partitions on that harddrive you are probably using fat16. does your current Tbird850 system run NT? if so, what partition does NT sit on, because this could be a boot.ini problem. the NT bootloader cannot find the target partition that has NT.
but, it also looks like some sort of drive-overlay on that 20gig split into 10 2gig partitions. first thing i would do is make sure that NT can boot by removing the p100 20gig out of the Tbird system. just only have the original drive that came with the Tbird system hooked up as a Master or Single Master to the primary IDE controller. if the system boots up NT then shutdown the computer. then, hookup the P100 20gig drive to the system as Master or Single Master on the Secondary IDE controller. So that only leaves you with two active IDE devices in your system. disconnect any internal IDE zips, IDE CDROM/CDRW, or external zips from the system just leave the two harddrives connected and jumpered correctly. Go into the BIOS and under Standard CMOS Setup turn all the IDE devices to AUTO. save changes and try to boot NT. Under NT you should see your other harddrive, if not, then all those partitions are formated fat32 and you need to boot into win95b or 98 to do a data transfer.
 
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