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I still don't get "unreliable" routers

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spidey07

No Lifer
Had it for probably 7 years or longer. Can't recall if I've even booted it in the last 3-4 years.

Firmware:
1.39.1, Jul 19 2001
 
At home I had a Netgear Pro Safe VPN/wifi that would crash incessantly even with the latest firmware which was supposed to fix the issue according to the manufacturer. Granted I had many connections happening. Prior to that I had an older Linksys WRT54G that also crashed similarly. Since then I've switched to a Sonicwall TZ170 and have never had to reboot. Knock on wood.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Had it for probably 7 years or longer. Can't recall if I've even booted it in the last 3-4 years.

Firmware:
1.39.1, Jul 19 2001
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Heck no you ain't seen one. I've had 'um all over here!

I've been investigating new/used/refurb Cisco 851W and 871W routers. There's also an 1800W series, but those are waay outta my budget.
I ran across a spot showing how to set-up these units, and to tell ya the truth, I don't think I could do it by myself. The set-up choices were quite extensive. I'm sure it'd be child's play to some of you fellows, but it looked like a hair-ripper-outer, drink-'till-ya-drop, type of install to me.
My 6 month old D-Link 4300 is doing good so far, but I could use it for a spare after buying the Cisco.

Does anybody have a favorite seller for new/refurb Cisco products?

Thanks!
 
I've currently got a Linksys Router (been so long since I looked at it that I don't remember the model) and have never had a problem with it. I'm not personally aware of anyone that has had a problem with a router where the router didn't totally die.
 
Cisco 834 SOHO. Sits there and works. Friends have gone through lots of linksys and 3com routers and had many issues. One of them didnt want to drop a ~250 bucks for one becuase of the cost. But has since bought so many replacements he has exceeded that cost in monetary and frustration.

That Cisco has probably been turned off 3 times in the past 2.5 years. Mainly when I go out of town for vacation and dont feel like paying the electric on things 😉

My dad has a linksys from 2001 that is also rock solid. Unfortunately it seems linksys from abotu 05 and on have been flaky. Ironically after Crisco bought them the quality has dropped hehe.
 
I've used the same Linksys router for five years. Never a problem with it but once I had to reboot. I've created problems for myself 🙂 but the equipment and software has been very reliable.
 
my wrtsl54gs is new and it freezes up once and awhile. i think it has to do with the d-link usb-ethernet adapter im using on my desktop though. the motherboard port died and it doesnt seem to like the usb either (bsod's are common)
 
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
Originally posted by: JackMDS
In many cases it is more of an Unreliable users. 😉
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Jack, do you have a favorite spot for buying a Cisco 851W or 871W new or refurbed router?
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Not really since I do not buy them in volume, so I google and search each time.
 
Not really since I do not buy them in volume, so I google and search each time.
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OK.
Are you aware of any major differences or improvements between the 851 and 871 units? Just looks like a newer model to me.
I'm seeing prices all over the board. 851Ws for 320-500, and 871Ws starting at 600 and going to La-La land. What would you consider a decent price?

Thanks!
 
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
Not really since I do not buy them in volume, so I google and search each time.
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OK.
Are you aware of any major differences or improvements between the 851 and 871 units? Just looks like a newer model to me.
I'm seeing prices all over the board. 851Ws for 320-500, and 871Ws starting at 600 and going to La-La land. What would you consider a decent price?

Thanks!
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The 871W can do more thus cost more, if you do not need the extra get the 851w.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/pro...models_comparison.html

 
Originally posted by: JackMDS
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
Not really since I do not buy them in volume, so I google and search each time.
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OK.
Are you aware of any major differences or improvements between the 851 and 871 units? Just looks like a newer model to me.
I'm seeing prices all over the board. 851Ws for 320-500, and 871Ws starting at 600 and going to La-La land. What would you consider a decent price?

Thanks!
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The 871W can do more thus cost more, if you do not need the extra get the 851w.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/pro...models_comparison.html
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OK. I was confused as usual. I thought the 851 series was discontinued for the 871 series, but the 831 series is the one that has been discontinued.
As you have stated, the 871 series has more doo-dads. This page gets down to the nitty gritty.
That definately narrows it down to the 851 series for me.
The set up looks a little daunting, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Thanks Again Jack!
 
I had a Belkin wired router a while back that I would have reset if I was doing any big transfers. It would just lock up. Replaced it with a Linksys and I've had no problems since.

Earlier this year I bought a new D-Link wireless router which refused to cooperate wirelessly. I couldn't get any computer to wirelessly connect to it. Then I bought a Linksys and it worked fine.

So far: bad Belkin, good Linksys, bad D-Link, another good Linksys.

Go Linksys!
 
I've had all kinds of router troubles in the past few years, never had one that worked. Started with a Microsoft router a friend had, didn't work reliably at all. Then a linksys router went bad. Now I've got a D-Link that needs to be reset constantly.

Maybe I need to invest in a cisco soho router, seems a good idea at this point.
 
I've had the same Netgear RP614 v2 since 2003. The only time it has been powered off was moving, or thunderstorms/loss of electric.

I use it as my main gateway router. That being said, it has outlasted 3 routers I had setup up as AP's, each router from a different "leading" manufacturer in SOHO.

Your price is indicative of quality control. Some units are good and some are bad even after leaving the QC benches.
 
That firmware number makes it sound like an earlier BEFW11S4 series, probably v2. I had one of those for ages and it worked well, but eventually I hit a throughput limit on it. It wasn't capable of handling more than about 600KB/sec worth of packets across the WAN interface due to processing power (when I had a connection that was rated for 1MB/sec) so it had to be replaced. It was a good router but with routers that old you have to be careful that you're not being throughput limited like I was.
 
When Charter moves to 10+ Mbps my Router will have to go. The Wan interface is only 10Mbps 🙁

Ill probably get a sonicwall as my next layer 3 device.
 
Ill probably get a sonicwall as my next layer 3 device.
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This Sonicwall brand seems to be another professional/industrial brand that I've never heard of.

I'm looking for a quality wireless router. Seems the professional brands are seldom, if ever, discussed on computer enthusiast sites (think AnandTech). I've seen a few posts mentioning professional quality routers, but specific brands and models are never listed.
Seems some consumer grade manfgs. are venturing into the quality stuff, (D-Link DFL-CPG310), but I'd like to research other brands avaliable for the home prosumer.
Can some kind, networking professional, point me in the right direction for a $300-$500, B/G wireless protocols, cable connected router? I'm only interested in the G band, so it could be G only, or have the option to turn B off. My research indicates B and G don't play well together.
If it's not possible to recommend a specific model, how about listing a few professional brand names that I can research? Better yet, link a few sites that review pro brands.

Thanks!
 
I had a Dlink that worked very well and rarely ever crashed (if ever). After it died one day, I went and picked up a cheap Linksys. It worked well but everytime I tried to play a sample track from an online store (Best Buy I think) it would lock up. It also randomly stopped working from time to time as well and required to be rebooted. I would have tried new firmware for it but it did not have any. Now that I use all Cisco gear things are great. I never reboot anything unless I am playing with a new IOS feature.
 
Originally posted by: Crusty
I used a Linksys BEFSR41 for the longest time, and then it got fried in a lightning storm 🙁
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Me too man (scratch the lightning storm though, my still chugs along). I keep thinking about replacing it with a dd-wrt router, but can never think of a good reason as I am the only user in my residence and I can just turn bittorrent off whenever I have QoS issues.

Company I used to work for upgraded the network in an apartment building that was originally setup with a DSL modem + BEFSR41 for each apartment (120 units) to a centralized system. So they boxed all these BEFSR41's up and they sit next to the rack where the new equipment is. Owner just straight up gave me one back in the day when I asked to borrrow in a pinch for some troubleshooting. When I moved into an apartment with structured wiring and included Internet I slapped it in the can where the Ethernet handoff from their router/switching and all the structured wiring terminates.

I have to assume all the rest of those BEFSR41's still work, just gathering dust 🙂.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Had it for probably 7 years or longer. Can't recall if I've even booted it in the last 3-4 years.

Firmware:
1.39.1, Jul 19 2001
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I totally agree. I have a Linksys WRT54G version 1.1 that I bought new from BB when they first came out. I'm running some version of dd-wrt firmware on it but don't remember which. I don't remember how many years I have had this thing, but don't ever recall having to reboot it. I thought about replacing it with a Buffalo a while back just because it's so old. But now I think I'll just keep it around for a bit longer. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

c3p0
😀

 
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
Ill probably get a sonicwall as my next layer 3 device.
Click to expand...

This Sonicwall brand seems to be another professional/industrial brand that I've never heard of.

I'm looking for a quality wireless router. Seems the professional brands are seldom, if ever, discussed on computer enthusiast sites (think AnandTech). I've seen a few posts mentioning professional quality routers, but specific brands and models are never listed.
Seems some consumer grade manfgs. are venturing into the quality stuff, (D-Link DFL-CPG310), but I'd like to research other brands avaliable for the home prosumer.
Can some kind, networking professional, point me in the right direction for a $300-$500, B/G wireless protocols, cable connected router? I'm only interested in the G band, so it could be G only, or have the option to turn B off. My research indicates B and G don't play well together.
If it's not possible to recommend a specific model, how about listing a few professional brand names that I can research? Better yet, link a few sites that review pro brands.

Thanks!
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I'd guess due to price. The Sonicwall TZ170,180, and 190 run about 350-500 bucks out of the box. Then if you add on other items like AV at the gateway and other goodies. it can run about 1200 bucks.

Having used a Juniper Netscreen and now working with sonicwall TZ170s and 4060s. I really like the robustness of the units over your 50 dollar SOHO linksys. If I can find a TZ170 for a few hundred bucks it is worth it for me.
 
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