'I snapped,' says killer accused of slaying child-rapist cellmate

MajinCry

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Good. Let's give this guy proper food as a reward, instead of prison slop.
 
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Good. Let's give this guy proper food as a reward, instead of prison slop.
No. We don't leave the dispensing of justice and/or retribution to other prisoners. It is a sole responsibility of the state. And it is also the responsibility of the state, who prisoners are effectively wards of, to keep prisoners safe, even when they have committed heinous acts.
 

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No. We don't leave the dispensing of justice and/or retribution to other prisoners. It is a sole responsibility of the state. And it is also the responsibility of the state, who prisoners are effectively wards of, to keep prisoners safe, even when they have committed heinous acts.

Fine, instant ramen then.
 

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No. We don't leave the dispensing of justice and/or retribution to other prisoners. It is a sole responsibility of the state. And it is also the responsibility of the state, who prisoners are effectively wards of, to keep prisoners safe, even when they have committed heinous acts.

It begs the question of the function of imprisonment of criminals and an evaluation of the efficacy of our approaches.
 

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When a cop, for what ever reason is sent to jail, he is NOT put in with the general inmates. The same is, or should be done with any crime against children. There are just two crimes that even the most hardened inmates won't let you slide on. "Honor amongst thieves"?
 

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No. We don't leave the dispensing of justice and/or retribution to other prisoners. It is a sole responsibility of the state. And it is also the responsibility of the state, who prisoners are effectively wards of, to keep prisoners safe, even when they have committed heinous acts.

The fact that the child rapist was co-housed with a violent inmate meant that jailhouse justice was being tacitly endorsed by the prison.

If I was on the jury for the violent inmate I'd acquit.
 

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The fact that the child rapist was co-housed with a violent inmate meant that jailhouse justice was being tacitly endorsed by the prison.

If I was on the jury for the violent inmate I'd acquit.

There was a case in CO like this.

A child killer was put into a cell with another inmate promising violence to the guards if they moved him in.

Well, they did anyway, child killer gets beaten to death, and the other inmate gets charged with murder.


Funny thing is, the prison had an unusually high rate of prisoner death, and the inmate was able to successfully argue negligence of care by the prison.

Prisons have a duty to house inmates according to the law and by punishments that have been determined by judge and jury. They don't get to run end around and dispense death penalties even on detestable people unless prescribed by law.
 

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"Begs the question" doesn't mean what you think it does.

So I read a little bit of formal logic on the origin of this instead of the vernacular of inviting a question.

Fun times.

Aside from that, would you like to comment on approaches to criminal behavior, their goals, their cost, and their efficacy? That's what interests me here.
 

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Well since no one has chimed in, I hope it would be at least valuable to propose several functions of imprisonment as response to criminal behavior.

1. deterrent for non-criminals who might otherwise engage in criminal behavior
2. positive punishment (application of the operant conditioning model) to discourage repeat criminal behavior
3. removal of detrimental individual from society
4. rehabilitation (teaching criminal positive behavior when released)
5. as a defensive operation for functional members of society to project their aggressive drives and deviant impulses on to criminals
6. as a defensive operation for functional members of society to validate their aggressive drives and deviant impulses in the role of punishment of criminals