I should probably know this but .....

[Fisher999]

Hi all:

The message title and topic summary pretty much say it all but I'll ask anyway.

Some of you know I have been grappling with a socket 939/nForce 4 mobo decision for the last few days in a new system build for which I already have all the components except Motherboard/CPU.

Now I THOUGHT I had decided on the Athlon/"Winchester"/Socket 939/3000+ but a lot of people have been asking if I am considering the new "Venice" core Athlons just coming out, that, among other things, will offer support for Intel's SSE3 instruction set.

My question is this:

Does the mobo chip (or chipset) have to have "support" for the new "Venice" core Athlons or does one just have to have a socket 939 mobo ???

Or is it something that will be addressed by mobo makers with BIOS revisions???

I am almost certain to purchase a nFORCE4 (probably ULTRA)/socket 939 mobo rather than a VIA K8T890 chipset/socket 939.

So if I should decide now or in the future to purchase a "Venice" core Athlon will I be "good to go"with a socket 939/nForce4 (non-Ultra or Ultra) ???

 

[imported_Bleh]

Bios revisions.

 

[theMan]

you will just need to update the bios, unless they have a compatible bios when you get it.

 

[imported_Kensai]

BIOS updates.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: Kensai
BIOS updates.

THREE votes for BIOS updates!

I guess that answers that, lol

Greg

 

[MDE]

BIOS, same as dual core.

 

[Markfw]

Bios, AND I hear, if you rorder a motherboard/CPU combo from Monachcomputer, the apply the bios update required befor ethey ship it to you, and at no charge ! Check it out though, in case I'm wrong.

 

[ProviaFan]

What happens if you order a MB and "Venice" CPU and don't get the latest BIOS revision? Will the board boot so you can flash the BIOS, or are you SOL?

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
What happens if you order a MB and "Venice" CPU and don't get the latest BIOS revision? Will the board boot so you can flash the BIOS, or are you SOL?

My money's on SOL.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
What happens if you order a MB and "Venice" CPU and don't get the latest BIOS revision? Will the board boot so you can flash the BIOS, or are you SOL?

My money's on SOL.

Dunno, but I think it would boot and detect the cpu incorrectly.

Edit: As in it would work but the MB would detect it as another core.

 

[imported_mueng]

Long time lurker/reader, but I'm wondering the same thing. I'm ordering a Venice core and want to get the MSI K8N Neo2 (have AGP 6800GT)
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130468

Any idea if this board would recongize the Venice? Or woudl require a BIOS update? I really don't want to get a board that won't be able to run the new core.

Thanks in advance.

 

[NightCrawler]

Originally posted by: mueng
Long time lurker/reader, but I'm wondering the same thing. I'm ordering a Venice core and want to get the MSI K8N Neo2 (have AGP 6800GT)
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130468

Any idea if this board would recongize the Venice? Or woudl require a BIOS update? I really don't want to get a board that won't be able to run the new core.

Thanks in advance.

Follow these steps:

1. Download the newest bios for the board that you are interested in and the flash utility. the bios update download

2. Create a bootable floppy or cd

3. Build the machine

4. Install the cpu and try to bootup if it isn't recognized then use the floppy you created.

5. Done.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: NightCrawler

Originally posted by: mueng
Long time lurker/reader, but I'm wondering the same thing. I'm ordering a Venice core and want to get the MSI K8N Neo2 (have AGP 6800GT)
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130468

Any idea if this board would recongize the Venice? Or woudl require a BIOS update? I really don't want to get a board that won't be able to run the new core.

Thanks in advance.

Follow these steps:

1. Download the newest bios for the board that you are interested in and the flash utility. the bios update download

2. Create a bootable floppy or cd

3. Build the machine

4. Install the cpu and try to bootup if it isn't recognized then use the floppy you created.

5. Done.

Thanks Night, that clears up a lot of questions !!!

Greg

 

[NightCrawler]

Originally posted by: Fisher999

Originally posted by: NightCrawler

Originally posted by: mueng
Long time lurker/reader, but I'm wondering the same thing. I'm ordering a Venice core and want to get the MSI K8N Neo2 (have AGP 6800GT)
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130468

Any idea if this board would recongize the Venice? Or woudl require a BIOS update? I really don't want to get a board that won't be able to run the new core.

Thanks in advance.

Follow these steps:

1. Download the newest bios for the board that you are interested in and the flash utility. the bios update download

2. Create a bootable floppy or cd

3. Build the machine

4. Install the cpu and try to bootup if it isn't recognized then use the floppy you created.

5. Done.

Thanks Night, that clears up a lot of questions !!!

Greg

Special Note: Some motherboards won't post without a CPU they can recognize while others will just run at a slow default.

Best to contact your motherboard maker { which ever your interested in buying } to find out what will happen if you install Venice on a mobo that has an older bios.

 

[Maluno]

This has been asked many times (by me too 😛) and the only way to be absolutely sure is to contact the mobo manufacturer directly. Just send them an email, they are usually very friendly and quick.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: Maluno
This has been asked many times (by me too 😛) and the only way to be absolutely sure is to contact the mobo manufacturer directly. Just send them an email, they are usually very friendly and quick.

Nightcrawler and Maluno:

Thanks, that sounds like very good advice !

😉