I should have been a police officer in NJ. $90k median salary.

[wabbitslayer]

ALL government workers are overpaid and rip off the taxpayer. they should chop all government pay by 2/3, i bet most of those fuggers would still stay because they wouldnt be able to get another job

It would save even more money to chop the pay by 3/3 and just eliminate things like the police entirely. :awe:

 

[Spineshank]

I used to work in northern NJ. Cost of living there is close to NYC cost. So 90K isnt as much as you think it is there. Plus there's a lot of shitty towns/cities in NJ.

 

[momeNt]

What skills might that be? Honest question.

Not a fucking clue!

 

[momeNt]

Maybe, but in the private sector they would get crappy healthcare, half the time off, and be subject to the whims of business fortune like the rest of us.

And please, calling it "public service" is something only the people who have those jobs do. It was never a sacrifice. It was always a secure way of earning a living that a certain type of person found very attractive.

The only other word(s) I've heard police officers referred to is heroes, which I guess includes less jobs, just police, firefighters, and military. Whereas a public building janitor is a civil servant.

These heroes could make a lot more money in the private sector, but because of their strong community values and love of heroics, they take much less than they can make.

fixed!!!!!

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

There are more than 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States

A total of 1,501 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the past 10 years.

150 of 900,000 die in the line of duty each year. About 0.017% die. OK, that was my only question.

 

[Insomniator]

There are more than 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States

A total of 1,501 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the past 10 years.

150 of 900,000 die in the line of duty each year. About 0.017% die. OK, that was my only question.

And I bet some overwhelmingly large % of those deaths are in a specific set of dangerous cities.

 

[SP33Demon]

Ever looked up how much they pay in taxes in NJ/NY? Highest in the country. Couldn't pay me 90K to live there.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Ever looked up how much they pay in taxes in NJ/NY? Highest in the country. Couldn't pay me 90K to live there.

And you have to live in New Jersey. I mean ... just live there.

Negatives are:
1) The people that live there
2) They all drive like idiots that have somewhere important to be all the time.

 

[Pacfanweb]

And I bet some overwhelmingly large % of those deaths are in a specific set of dangerous cities.

And then you can go figure out how many died in just a regular car accident, not involved in a chase or a shootout. That reduces the numbers even further....anyone can die in a car accident.

A police job isn't that dangerous on average. Most cops probably that aren't in the more dangerous cities rarely even pull their guns, much less need to use them.

When it's dangerous, it's dangerous, but it rarely is for most of them.

 

[Markbnj]

The only other word(s) I've heard police officers referred to is heroes, which I guess includes less jobs, just police, firefighters, and military. Whereas a public building janitor is a civil servant.

fixed!!!!!

While I respect cops, and have relatives who are cops, it's not like there is a big private-sector market for those skills. The become cops because they want to be cops, and then they usually stay cops until pension time.

 

[Red Squirrel]

The civil servants here are trying to claim that it's unfair to put them on a "sunshine list" (those making over $100k, there's a lot) because economics have changed. Meanwhile the median individual income in Canada is $30k. Of course the list doesn't include benefits or their gold plated pensions. Yet they're always so hard done by.

I wonder if that's why the government is pushing for temporary foreign workers so much. Cut more of the lower median jobs and it raises the average median, then the 1%ers don't look like they're making that much money anymore.

 

[MongGrel]

Hey, there are probably kick backs involved too ya know

 

[rh71]

I live on LI as well.
What district are you in where a kindergarten teacher make 6 figures?
Only possible scenario is old coot with 2000 college credits and 70 years of service.
I think the average is MUCH less.

As for the cops, I know a few.
The cost of living around here is high and I think that public servants should be able to afford living in the area they serve. Our county cops should be able to afford a house in the county and raise a family.
I just think something is wrong when they have the NICEST house and they are retiring comfortably in their mid 40's.
I think something is especially wrong when they are bunch of entitlement driven whiners working a relatively easy, low crime area.

http://seethroughny.net/teacher-salaries/long-island

I don't want to name the town but you can see I'm not exaggerating. You can find specific teachers (and all workers) with this site.

Its not the unions, no matter what the right wing news drivel says. A union can ask all they want, they do not make the rules.

If you think its wrong then run for office or vote for people that will change it. The voters put politicians in charge that have the authority to set pay and benefits.

Someone explained it better than me so here it is:

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Anyone can run for school board. Parents can. People who are not parents can. You just have to live in the district. Teachers who teach in the district cannot, but teachers from other districts can because it would be a conflict of interest to be deciding on your own union contract (however, see below for more on that).

The best people to get on there are (a) people who understand budgets and (b) people who are operating in the best interests of the TAXPAYERS, not the teachers and administrators and (c) people who cannot be bamboozled or bullied by existing school board members into toeing the party line and making everything all "nicey nice" for the unions like has been done for decades ... in short people not afraid to rock the boat and make changes!

Unfortunately, the people who run are often insiders who are "education" related.

A typical classic is a teacher who teaches in another school district. They like to play the "I'll be on your school board and scratch your back, you be on my school board and scratch mine" game.

LI taxpayers have not been paying attention for too long and this is the result!

People have blamed the high taxes on the Counties, who really are only guilt by association because they collect all the taxes, including school taxes, while it is the teachers' unions and the administrators, the bosses of the teachers (who must always get more money, perks and bennies simply because they are the bosses) in the school districts who are the real culprits who have been quietly feasting right under the taxpayers' noses driving the taxpayers broke.
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I don't know the first thing about education or their budgets, only that I want lower taxes. You can see why many in my position would be reluctant to run for school board despite how much we hate the taxes. Would our kids be better off if people like me made school-related budget decisions? No. Is it fair what those people in those positions are doing seeing that they have a vested interest in higher budgets? Again no.

I agree with what you're saying about changing those decision-makers - how easy that is is another story. So who's going to run? We have this problem with elections EVERYWHERE in the democratic system.

 

[Vinny N]

And you have to live in New Jersey. I mean ... just live there.

Negatives are:
1) The people that live there
2) They all drive like idiots that have somewhere important to be all the time.

That's funny...I lived in Upstate CNY for most of my life and moved to South FL a few years ago...

SFL seems to have negative #1 in common.

#2 is Floridians drive ridiculously slow like they have no where important to be...EVER....