I sent a guy to the hospital

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I put a guy out of commission for a bit playing some sand volley ball the other day. Spiked the ball with a bit of authority and it bounced off the sand and nailed a guy right in the crotch. He wasn't feeling to swell after that.

 

[Mandrill]

I took a line drive off the chin while pitching softball in college. Slpit my chion open a little and knocked it sideways. I blacked out of a second and it took weeks before I could chew anything. The joint on the one side hurt so bad.

Funny thing was, just about twenty minutes earlier, the guy playing third base had a line drive hit hard at him. He got the glove up and had his bare hand to support it in the clasic two handed squeeze. Anyways, he didn't get the glove up quite fast enough and the ball tipped off the top of the glove and forced it's way between his middle finger and ring finger. It ripped the webbing between those fingers clear down to the knuckle. you could see the bone and it was all bloody and meaty.

Talk abotu a bad day. We weere just hitting the ball around that day., After I got hit, we called it a day.

 

[brxndxn]

Pitchers are the only ones with an excuse for getting hit. Everyone else should be ready with a GLOVE.

Pitchers in baseball or softball should usually be able to catch the ball off the bat. They're already focusing on it right after it being thrown. They should never try to get out of the way because it is almost impossible to have that kind of reaction and movement time. That guy just had the wrong reaction.

I played pitcher when I was 12 for a few games in little league.. We were still playing on the smaller size fields. I had a few line drives hit right at me (I was a lousy pitcher) and I caught all but one. The one tipped off my glove and the short stop got it. The major leaguers almost always catch the ball when hit right back at them.

When you play baseball/softball, you have to train yourself to have the right reaction. Trying to get out of the way is always the wrong reaction. You need to catch the damn ball. It's much easier.


That sucks you put a guy in the hospital.. but it happens. He should've caught the ball, though.

 

[Koing]

Whats the difference between Softball and Baseball?

I'm not American and I have heard Softball a lot of times and thought only smaller kids 8-14 ish played it and when you get older you play Baseball? Well thats the impression I had and its not right from what I have read here.

 

[rh71]

Softball is played with a larger ball (almost twice as large) and the pitching is underhand. Competitive softball has pitchers throwing as hard/fast as baseball and is known primarily as girl's version of baseball. Recreational softball is played by adults of both genders and is a slow underhand-lob pitch... throw it up in the air toward the batter and they whale on it as hard as possible. Rec softball is a ton of fun.

As for rules differences... I don't know.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: rh71
Softball is played with a larger ball (almost twice as large) and the pitching is underhand. Competitive softball has pitchers throwing as hard/fast as baseball and is known primarily as girl's version of baseball. Recreational softball is played by adults of both genders and is a slow underhand-lob pitch... throw it up in the air toward the batter and they whale on it as hard as possible. Rec softball is a ton of fun.

As for rules differences... I don't know.

Cheers man I understand it better. But one more thing.

In competitive softball do they still dot he under hand throwing?

The game sounds a lot like *Rounders* here for anyone that knows of it in England. Sounds basically the same but the ball is like a baseball but bigger. But not as big as a Softball ball. Its also underhand bowling only and the ball has to arrive at the batter between his/her knee or hip can't remember but definately below the shoulders though. Yeah use to play it as a team game when I was in school. Good fun.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Pitchers are the only ones with an excuse for getting hit. Everyone else should be ready with a GLOVE.

Pitchers in baseball or softball should usually be able to catch the ball off the bat. They're already focusing on it right after it being thrown. They should never try to get out of the way because it is almost impossible to have that kind of reaction and movement time. That guy just had the wrong reaction.

I played pitcher when I was 12 for a few games in little league.. We were still playing on the smaller size fields. I had a few line drives hit right at me (I was a lousy pitcher) and I caught all but one. The one tipped off my glove and the short stop got it. The major leaguers almost always catch the ball when hit right back at them.

When you play baseball/softball, you have to train yourself to have the right reaction. Trying to get out of the way is always the wrong reaction. You need to catch the damn ball. It's much easier.


That sucks you put a guy in the hospital.. but it happens. He should've caught the ball, though.

Have you ever played higher level ball with metal/composite bats? When you're on the mound, what happens between contact and when the ball gets to you is PURE reflexes (mostly a self-preservation). I play university ball in Canada and we've switched back to wood bats because it was getting ridiculous, guys at this level are strong enough to handle wood bats. Composite bats these days have such a big sweet spot and are so performant that there are a lot of hard drives up the middle.

Incidentally, playing at 3rd or 1st is as or more dangerous as being on the mound. A sharp one-hopper to 3rd is very dangerous because if you get a bad hop, you're taking it in the teeth.

And by the way, there are a bunch of major leaguers that get drilled every year on the mound, but they usually they don't get hit square so they can shake it off. If you want a particularly gory incident, look up what happened to Mike Messina a few years back: he took one right in the eye, needless to say there was blood every where. His eye got so swollen that he couldn't see out of it.

BTW, the guy is probably fine, a stomach isn't too bad a place to get hit, if you're going to get hit square; it's soft enough that you'll get a lot of surface where the contact happens. I remember when I was younger there was an outfielder that lost high fly ball during a night game and he ended up taking it square in the nose (baseball, not softball). That was not pretty.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Koing

In competitive softball do they still dot he under hand throwing?

Yep, like rh71 said, there are 2 types of softball that are played: slow pitch and fast pitch.
Slow pitch is mostly recreational, fast pitch is mostly the competitive type.

FWIW, the distances in softball are much smaller than baseball. I forget the exact field dimensions in softball but I think they are roughly 75ft apart vs 90ft in baseball.
Also, the fence is very much closer due to the dynamics of the larger ball (~270-300 in center field ft vs 370-400ft)
In addition, the bats are shaped slightly differently.

There are also a bunch of minor differences in the rules that I won't bother you with.

 

[rgwalt]

I sent a guy to the hospital today, too. Got into a car accident. Parents were with me, they are fine. We all swear that we didn't see him coming. We *think* he was speeding, but we have no way to prove it. He went to the hospital complaining of neck pains, but I haven't heard anything else. I've got insurance, so it will all be taken care of, but I still feel like crap. This is my second accident in 7 years. I was driving ticket free for the last 4 years, and now I'll have to put up with higher premiums for the next 3 to 5 years.

Ah well, at least no one was hurt, or worse, killed. Its only money.

Ryan

 

[Bleep]

I never thought that Chess could hurt me but changed my mind when the guy I was playing picked up the clock and threw it at me.

Bleeo

 

[psianime]

I doubt he will have a vaild claim to sue. You guys were playing a game and it was an accicent. He knew the risks beforehand and he waved his rights to sue for injuries when he decided to play. I'm sure that the tournament holder made all participants sign a document saying that they are aware of the risks and is playing under the assumption that if they get hurt, it's their own fault.

No worries. At least everyone is okay.

-psianime

 

[Lounatik]

I played slow-pitch softball all year round in Florida for about 5 years and the law of averages caught up to me in a bad way. I slid into second base and hooked the bag(which was supposed to pop off of its base. Instead it remained anchored and whammo! Torn ACL in right knee. Sugery required.Rehab followed,got a bit better due to strength conditioning.Wore a leg brace, but I could still run pretty good. Whammo! Run into right field fence,break two ribs.Stop playing softball for about 2 months.Jonesing real bad, gotta play, get back on the field andd, you guessed it, whammo! Ball takes weird hop IN THE OUTFIELD and I go to grab it barehanded and it hits me square on top of my pinky and pushes the bone back into my now broken hand.Mind you this happened all in about a 6 month span.

To make matters worse, I got the cast off of my hand and inless than a week, proceeded to stick my hand inside a running air conditoner, which re-broke my hand and just about took my pinky off of my hand.






Peace




Lounatik

 

[Chaotic42]

I once hit a man with a softball in Vegas, just to watch him limp.

 

[MedicBob]

Lets see, I go out on a field and stand in the middle of it to throw a 6 inch round projectile at someone whos' mission is to hit the projectile with a club and then run away from whom ever gets the projectile in a square pattern.

If he tries to sue(doubtfull) counter sue that he threw a deadly object at you. 😀

 

[MemnochtheDevil]

I have to agree with Raynor, there is very little chance of a pitcher in a competitive league getting a glove on a ball coming back at him. I went and watched a coworker's league for a couple games. The allowed aluminum bats and had a cap on home runs. Each person could hit 2, then you had to keep it in the park. So after 2 at-bats all the good hitters were trying to hit line drives for extra base hits. Most of those guys played college baseball and could just destroy the ball when they got a hold of it.

It's plain luck if you could get a glove up to defend yourself after a pitch, much different than little league. My coworker played college ball and bench pressed 300lbs. He could put a lot more power into his swing than most high schoolers let alone little league. The competitive leagues around here are nuts, lots of tournaments and plenty of players who seem to live for those games.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: MedicBob
Lets see, I go out on a field and stand in the middle of it to throw a 6 inch round projectile at someone whos' mission is to hit the projectile with a club and then run away from whom ever gets the projectile in a square pattern.

If he tries to sue(doubtfull) counter sue that he threw a deadly object at you. 😀

wow, you think way way too hard.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Bleep
I never thought that Chess could hurt me but changed my mind when the guy I was playing picked up the clock and threw it at me.

Bleeo

L O L.

They need chessplayer's insurance. 🙂 Hockey has USAHockey and USAInlineHockey insurance that we must purchase before even being allowed to play. We also had to sign a waiver in college.

As for baseball and aluminum bats, NCAA had the discussion to switch to wooden bats about 4-5 years ago. I don't know what came of it, but it became a serious issue because a pitcher was hit on the head from a liner. There's a reason they teach pitchers to follow through their motion in a "ready" stance after the pitch is delivered. Do the best you can. As for softball... competitive or otherwise, there's no reason the pitcher can't be in a "ready" stance. It can save your life if you can at least deflect the ball away from your head if/when it's hit that hard back at you.

 

[MemnochtheDevil]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Bleep
I never thought that Chess could hurt me but changed my mind when the guy I was playing picked up the clock and threw it at me.

Bleeo

L O L.

They need chessplayer's insurance. 🙂 Hockey has USAHockey and USAInlineHockey insurance that we must purchase before even being allowed to play. We also had to sign a waiver in college.

As for baseball and aluminum bats, NCAA had the discussion to switch to wooden bats about 4-5 years ago. I don't know what came of it, but it became a serious issue because a pitcher was hit on the head from a liner. There's a reason they teach pitchers to follow through their motion in a "ready" stance after the pitch is delivered. Do the best you can. As for softball... competitive or otherwise, there's no reason the pitcher can't be in a "ready" stance. It can save your life if you can at least deflect the ball away from your head if/when it's hit that hard back at you.

You have plenty of time in softball to be in a ready stance. In this case the ball was hit at his stomach, so having his hands near his head didn't help. Even being in a ready stance won't completely protect your head, if you deflect the ball instead of catching it, a softball at that speed even after bouncing off your glove can still break bone....

I just don't see why in a competitive league when almost everyone can drive most pitches out of the park, switching to wooden bats is such arguement. The NCAA has the problem of all the bat manufacturers lobbying against further requirements.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: MemnochtheDevil

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Bleep
I never thought that Chess could hurt me but changed my mind when the guy I was playing picked up the clock and threw it at me.

Bleeo

L O L.

They need chessplayer's insurance. 🙂 Hockey has USAHockey and USAInlineHockey insurance that we must purchase before even being allowed to play. We also had to sign a waiver in college.

As for baseball and aluminum bats, NCAA had the discussion to switch to wooden bats about 4-5 years ago. I don't know what came of it, but it became a serious issue because a pitcher was hit on the head from a liner. There's a reason they teach pitchers to follow through their motion in a "ready" stance after the pitch is delivered. Do the best you can. As for softball... competitive or otherwise, there's no reason the pitcher can't be in a "ready" stance. It can save your life if you can at least deflect the ball away from your head if/when it's hit that hard back at you.

You have plenty of time in softball to be in a ready stance. In this case the ball was hit at his stomach, so having his hands near his head didn't help. Even being in a ready stance won't completely protect your head, if you deflect the ball instead of catching it, a softball at that speed even after bouncing off your glove can still break bone....

I just don't see why in a competitive league when almost everyone can drive most pitches out of the park, switching to wooden bats is such arguement. The NCAA has the problem of all the bat manufacturers lobbying against further requirements.

Here are the two main reasons for the debate:
- Using wooden bats is generally more expensive (because they break) than using even high-priced composite bats.

- Composite / Aluminum bats have HUGE sweet spots and even when you take the ball off the handle most guys that play college ball can still "muscle it out" of the infield for a bloop single; wood bats shatter if you hit it on the handle. Any coach that has a strong hitting team would obviously prefer to keep composite/aluminum.

 

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