I screwed up my jumpter settings. please help

[AirForceElite]

This is one of those "If it's not broken, dont try to fix it"

Well here is the problem.

i recently bought a new hard drive for my media files.
I didnt screw it to inside of the case, bur rather just let it sit beside the case.

so time came when i decided "its time to actually mount it"

so i took and mounted it, and i think i also changed the jumpers, now my OS says there is no hard drive to boot from a.k.a doesnt recongize it.

Can any of you good men please tell me which settings i have to put it on?

I have:

OS hard drive
New hard drive for files
DVD-RW
what setting does each have to be under.

and 2nd part of the question:
i am using the old and wide ATA HD cables but i am nolt sure which ends goes to which HD.

for example from my motherboard there is:

1)ATA cable (labeled as CD-ROM cable) going from mobo to my DVD.
2)ATA cable going from mobo to HD#1 (should i use the middle connector or the old connector)
3)ATA cable going from mobo to HD#2

 

[Canai]

You should just be able to set the drives to cable select. The drive on the end of the cable will be the master. The middle connector will be the slave drive.

 

[myocardia]

What motherboard do you have, that's got 3 IDE controllers?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

It really helps if you post the manuf. and model of your hdd's and MB. Almost every hdd has markings either on the houseing around the connectors or on a label on the top of the drive that looks something like this.
MSC
ALS
The labeling is read vertically instead of horizontally. Depending on your MB, most newer machines handle drives just fine set to cable select (CS). Again, generally, the middle connector on the cable goes to your OS hdd and the end connector to your 2nd hdd.

 

[AirForceElite]

so sorry
mobo:
asus k8v SE deluxe
hdd: WD (40) maxtor (80) both at 7200

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
It really helps if you post the manuf. and model of your hdd's and MB. Almost every hdd has markings either on the houseing around the connectors or on a label on the top of the drive that looks something like this.
MSC
ALS
The labeling is read vertically instead of horizontally. Depending on your MB, most newer machines handle drives just fine set to cable select (CS). Again, generally, the middle connector on the cable goes to your OS hdd and the end connector to your 2nd hdd.

I thought the end connector was for the master drive ??? oh well doesn't matter now SATA ftw

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: AirForceElite
This is one of those "If it's not broken, dont try to fix it"

Well here is the problem.

i recently bought a new hard drive for my media files.
I didnt screw it to inside of the case, bur rather just let it sit beside the case.

so time came when i decided "its time to actually mount it"

so i took and mounted it, and i think i also changed the jumpers, now my OS says there is no hard drive to boot from a.k.a doesnt recongize it.

Can any of you good men please tell me which settings i have to put it on?

I have:

OS hard drive set to master on ide 0
New hard drive for files set to master on ide 1
DVD-RW set to slave on either ide 0 or 1
what setting does each have to be under.

and 2nd part of the question:
i am using the old and wide ATA HD cables but i am nolt sure which ends goes to which HD.

for example from my motherboard there is:

1)ATA cable (labeled as CD-ROM cable) going from mobo to my DVD.
2)ATA cable going from mobo to HD#1 (should i use the middle connector or the old connector)
3)ATA cable going from mobo to HD#2

if you jumper the way i suggest it doesn't matter where you connect the hdds on the cable, the jumper tells the drive which is slave/master

 

[Canai]

A friend of mine had problems with his HD apparently failing on him, but after a little time spent troubleshooting, he found out that if the HD's on his semi-older ASUS board were set to anything other than cable select, the comp wouldn't boot.

 

[Paperdoc]

I have not used the "CS" or "Cable Select" settings before. But here's how the jumper systems were supposed to work.
You should have on your motherboard TWO IDE cable connectors. Look closely at the board near each connector, and at the flat ribbon cables themselves. There should be an indication near each connector of which end has Pin #1. On each ribbon cable, usually there is a red stripe on one edge indicating THIS IS FOR PIN #1. Make sure they are plugged into the motherboard connectors this way.
Same thing at the HDD end. The HDD case connector should have a label nearby showing which is Pin #1. Make sure the cable is plugged in correctly here, too.
On the hard drives, one MUST be Master, and one MUST be Slave (unless you go with the Cable Select option on both). These are set by installing one little jumper on the correct pins of a selector set (usually 6 or 8 pins in two rows). Look for the label on the case for how to set.
It is RECOMMENDED (may not be absolutely necessary) that you connect the ribbon cable so the end connector goes to the Master drive, and the middle connector to Slave. This is assuming you put both hard drives on ONE ribbon cable to share one of the motherboard's IDE ports. That would be best, because then the two hard drives would both be able to work at their fast speed (like Ultra ATA 100 or 133), whereas the DVD drive is slower.
Assuming your hard drives are able to run at 100 or 133 speeds, you should be using a ribbon cable with 80 wires in it. Compared to the older 40-wire cable it looks a lot the same. They ALL have only 40 pins on every connector, and they all have the same total ribbon cable width. It's just that the newer cable used for faster drives has twice as many wires in it (finer, and more closely spaced) than the older ones. For the DVD drive, a 40-wire ribbon cable is OK.
The DVD drive, because it cannot run at modern HD speeds like 100 or 133, should be on its own IDE motherboard connector and ribbon cable. That way it cannot affect a faster device on the line. Assuming it is the ONLY device on this IDE port, it MUST be the Master (or Cable Select, if you go that route). But for future reference, you could actually add a third hard drive to the line with the DVD on it. You just should be sure to use the right (i.e., 80-wire) ribbon cable to allow a faster drive to work optimally), and you would have to be sure to set the HDD and DVD Master and Slave functions via jumpers. The best, usually, is to have the HDD set to Master and the DVD to Slave (note that is a change!). Often in these set-ups a faster (Ultra ATA 100 or 133) hard drive can actually run at this speed even though a slower (ATA33) device like a DVD drive is sharing its IDE port.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Canai
A friend of mine had problems with his HD apparently failing on him, but after a little time spent troubleshooting, he found out that if the HD's on his semi-older ASUS board were set to anything other than cable select, the comp wouldn't boot.

i guess there is a first time i have heard of stuff although this sounds extremely rare. in all the years i have been messing around with computers i have never come across this situation, but who knows, sounds like a bad m/b or cable.

i have personally used msi, dfi, asus, ecs, foxconn, intel, tyan, gigabyte, abit and just about any other brand out there and always set it up this way:

set to master on ide 0
set to master on ide 1
set to slave on either ide 0 or 1

always using 80pin cables. once you jumper them yourself it doesn't matter where on the cable the item goes, either in the middle or end.