I saw a guy cheating in an important test. Should I have told on him?

[guyver01]

Last I heard you were doing some low tier tech support, amirite?
.

see... even your information is incorrect.

i'm a network engineer for a a company that is:
in the top 10 of the Top 250 Private Companies
in the top 50 of the Fast Growth 100
cisco awarded Collaboration Partner of the Year for Public Sector
cisco awarded Strategic Service Partner for Civilian
and in the CRN Tech Elite 250

this is one of the best companies around to work for...

and *I* can live with that.

 

[randay]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+I+saw+a+guy+cheating+in+an+important+test.+Should+I+have+told+on+him%3F

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Cheaters get caught out eventually. Some make it to President but they do get caught out

 

[Miramonti]

I'm sorry it had to come to this, but since the bait was taken, post salaries and SO pics so we can determine the winner.

 

[airdata]

Meh, no, everyone lies. IRL if you don't know the answer you just google it anyway... As long as you get the answer in the time allowed I don't see the problem.

You miss the point.... If it's a job interview the questions are being asked to weed out candidates and get an idea of their technical knowledge. I'd be pissed if this happened. What if a more qualified candidate misses a couple questions just because they can't remember and brainiac w\ google gets 100% and gets the job over the other person?

If they have to use google... they shouldn't get the job period. You'd hope theyd get weeded out at the next process if not just based on these questions.

I can tell you though that at one place I interviewed in the past I smoked the little networking questions they had and it led to 2-3 subsequent interviews for different positions.

nope. this isn't high school.. it's the real world.
in the real world... if you don't know an answer... you fucking google it.
that guy is better suited for the job than you would be.

Another horrible response... How do you even come up with saying the cheater is better for the job than OP ?

I'd take a dirty ass background check over some nim wit who has to google answers to a questionable he'd otherwise fail.

 

[guyver01]

I'd take a dirty ass

i bet you would

 

[Oyeve]

I bet most if not all would do the same thing if they could. Shit, ive been doing IT for 28 years and "google" answers myself. I see nothing wrong. If you can google properly then you are aok.

 

[airdata]

Because by your logic, its better to guess if you don't know the answer.

Well, starting a job off by lying certainly isn't the way to go... I'm sure it works good for some people but they're frauds.

 

[zanejohnson]

go ahead smart guy..

what is an ip number?

and how do you add a printer to the network? (and no... plugging in the network cable is NOT the right answer)

An IP adress is an non unique number either assigned by a dynamic host control protocol server. (or router) or manually configured on the client side... the usable IP addresses are determined by the subnet mask in use which allows for multiple virtual networks to be in place over the same physical mediums.
The IP range used in internet protocol is 1.0.0.1 - 255.255.255.255 depending on subnet used..

To add a network printer, connect the cat 5 cable to the printers nic, then scroll through the printers configuration menus to find the ipx/spx (if its an IP network) configuration...then assign it to either get an IP via dhcp or assign it an unused IP address in the subnet you'd like to use it in....then on the client side create a virtual IP port corresponding to the IP settings or hostmame (if you chose to use dhcp on the network printer.

 

[Oyeve]

To add a network printer, connect the cat 5 cable to the printers nic, then scroll through the printers configuration menus to find the ipx/spx (if its an IP network) configuration....

Wrong. Thats xeroxs protocol. You should have googled.

 

[airdata]

i bet you would

Do you take your smart phone to do cisco certs too? I mean.. what would be wrong with that?

 

[HAL9000]

An IP adress is an non unique number either assigned by a dynamic host control protocol server. (or router) or manually configured on the client side... the usable IP addresses are determined by the subnet mask in use which allows for multiple virtual networks to be in place over the same physical mediums.
The IP range used in internet protocol is 1.1.1.1 - 255.255.255.255 depending on subnet used..

To add a network printer, connect the cat 5 cable to the printers nic, then scroll through the printers configuration menus to find the ipx/spx (if its an IP network) configuration...then assign it to either get an IP via dhcp or assign it an unused IP address in the subnet you'd like to use it in....then on the client side create a virtual IP port corresponding to the IP settings or hostmame (if you chose to use dhcp on the network printer.

Actually routers != DHCP servers, sure all routers can be DHCP servers, but not all DHCP servers are routers.

 

[zinfamous]

If he fails to perform the job adaquately, will people die/get maimed?

If yes, tattle.
If no, keep quiet and blackmail him.

excellent.

:thumbsup:

Honestly, though, I'd rat his ass out. If you don't know your shit, then it should be exposed earlier. Nothing worse than hiring some fool who turns out to be a lazy, incompetent ass.

 

[Red Storm]

In the real world we don't tattle on past, current, or potential co-workers over minor stuff like this. That's for elementary school.

Honestly, though, I'd rat his ass out. If you don't know your shit, then it should be exposed earlier. Nothing worse than hiring some fool who turns out to be a lazy, incompetent ass.

I imagine most places don't like to hire tattletales.

 

[guyver01]

An IP adress is an non unique number either assigned by a dynamic host control protocol server. (or router) or manually configured on the client side... the usable IP addresses are determined by the subnet mask in use which allows for multiple virtual networks to be in place over the same physical mediums.
The IP range used in internet protocol is 1.0.0.1 - 255.255.255.255 depending on subnet used..

WRONG.
only HALF the answer.

you could have an IP address that looks like 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334
and Unlike IPv4, an IPv6 address has a dedicated subnetting portion... the first 48 bits are for Internet routing... the 49th to the 54th are for defining subnets... last 64 bits are for device (interface) ID's

 

[zanejohnson]

Actually routers != DHCP servers, sure all routers can be DHCP servers, but not all DHCP servers are routers.

Hence the or...in any proper network you usually want to have a dedicated dhcp and DNS server

 

[Anonemous]

Did you google that? /obligatory

 

[zanejohnson]

WRONG.
only HALF the answer.

you could have an IP address that looks like 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334
and Unlike IPv4, an IPv6 address has a dedicated subnetting portion... the first 48 bits are for Internet routing... the 49th to the 54th are for defining subnets... last 64 bits are for device (interface) ID's

I didn't know we were talking ipv6 as well

 

[zanejohnson]

Did you google that? /obligatory

No that's why there's probably a few things I missed...

 

[guyver01]

Do you take your smart phone to do cisco certs too? I mean.. what would be wrong with that?

it's spelled out in the cisco policies that you cannot, and violation of the policy can ban you from taking any cisco exam ever.

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html

For your reference, a partial list of actions that represent suspicious activity under Cisco's NDA is provided below:

Possession of notes, books, cell phones, pagers, electronic media, recording devices, or any other articles or devices other than those provided by the proctor during exam testing

if 'no cellphones' wasn't spelled out in the rules when taking a pre-employment exam... it's not off limits.

 

[guyver01]

I didn't know we were talking ipv6 as well

if you're talking IP address... unless SPECIFIED... assume both IPv4 and IPv6

 

[mnewsham]

excellent.

:thumbsup:

Honestly, though, I'd rat his ass out. If you don't know your shit, then it should be exposed earlier. Nothing worse than hiring some fool who turns out to be a lazy, incompetent ass.

I would argue that hiring a psychopath who comes in one day to the office and kills everyone a bit worse hire then someone who is lazy and incompetent.

 

[alkemyst]

Meh, no, everyone lies.

This explains a lot.

...and no, not everyone lies.

 

[alkemyst]

if you're talking IP address... unless SPECIFIED... assume both IPv4 and IPv6

Actually assume IPv4 for 99.99999% of normal people out there.

IPv6 when relevant is always stated as such.

 

[guyver01]

Actually assume IPv4 for 99.99999% of normal people out there.

IPv6 when relevant is always stated as such.

i guess when you're working with outdated technology... sure... i'll give ya that.