I really think that both Nvidia and ATI are making a mistake if they do their next gen card only PCI-E

[CHfan4ever]

I really think that.I think 90% of the people still have only AGP Mobo, and no, for 3 games a year im not going to switch also my mobo AND my cpu( because i got a socket 754) and a format etc bla blaaa blaaaa just to have a PCI-E card.

And i really think SLI-Crossfire are just an excuse for those compagny to make you spend more money with the same product to give you some boost in games.

No more upgrading every year for me...ohhh no no no.Finish.Its over.Not for 3 games a year.

 

[Megatomic]

I've read that ATI is releasing their entire next product line with AGP models. I don't know about NV.

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I've read that ATI is releasing their entire next product line with AGP models. I don't know about NV.

Got a link? I'd really like to confirm this since it will help me to decide between an nForce3 (AGP only) or nF4 (PCI-E only) mobo.

Thanks,

Bud

 

[blckgrffn]

I personally made the switch to PCIe and it was pretty darn painless. I did it now because people will still buy your used AGP stuff, a year or so from now that may not be the case. Not saying that I don't miss my 6800U, but I don't think that going PCIe is really that big of a deal, either. Motherboards for AMD are now plentiful and cheap, OEMs (Dell) are PCIe, and you can even just move your 754 processor and just upgrade the mobo and video card.

I think that this gen is much better for the graphics card companies to focus on PCIe, lol ATI really got burned last gen, and now they will flip-flop with NV? Ah, well, I guess that is how it goes...

 

[blckgrffn]

And I wouldn't go AGP now unless you can't avoid it or have a 6800GT or something big and expensive to migrate to a new platform. Cards like the 6600GT cost the same in either flavor, and you have some future assurance.

 

[apoppin]

they will also be AGP. . . neither company will commit financial suicide by releasing PCIe only video cards

 

[RussianSensation]

AGP is needed for everyone with P4 3.0ghz/A64 2800+ or above. That market is still sizeable I would imagine. Besides, both companies make the most money off low-end and mid-range offerings. So at least those have to be available in AGP format.

If I was going to buy a new system now, I'd go with PCIe 100%.

 

[ryanv12]

ha, I just bought an AGP mobo and I'm going to stick an X2 in it. I have a 6800GT AGP, this is why, and it's enough to play games at a high level at least until the games at the end of the year/beginning of next year. Since my processor will last me a while, guess what? I'm going to buy an AGP G70/R520 when I'm ready and have that sucker chuggin for a while longer. AGP WILL RIDE IN MY SYSTEM UNTIL THEY RELEASE PCI-E X32. And ride well, it shall.

 

[Creig]

ATI 2005 Desktop Roadmap

ATI will offer its new R5XX line in both AGP and PCI-E.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

90% of people might still only have AGP, but only only like 1-5% actually buy top end cards. And there won't be many AGP systems available that support fast enough CPUs to compliment the new cards...support for old/dead technology only slows down development of newer and better...hopefully by next gen they'll completely cut support on the high end. Ofcourse by then we'll probably see something like PCI-E2 or something

 

[imported_Kensai]

Of course big companies could also stick a PCI-E ---> AGP bridge chip on it.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: Budarow

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I've read that ATI is releasing their entire next product line with AGP models. I don't know about NV.

Got a link? I'd really like to confirm this since it will help me to decide between an nForce3 (AGP only) or nF4 (PCI-E only) mobo.

Thanks,

Bud

if you're buying a new board and a new card is there a reason not to go pci-e?

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: rise4310

Originally posted by: Budarow

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I've read that ATI is releasing their entire next product line with AGP models. I don't know about NV.

Got a link? I'd really like to confirm this since it will help me to decide between an nForce3 (AGP only) or nF4 (PCI-E only) mobo.

Thanks,

Bud

if you're buying a new board and a new card is there a reason not to go pci-e?

Yah...I've got a good PS with no 24-pin ATX connector (i.e., the PCI-E mobos all seem to come with a 24-pin ATX socket and some of them say "do not use a 20-pin ATX PS and/or no conversion cable); the nForce4 mobos are still quite a bit more expensive and still seem somewhat buggy compared to the nForce3 mobos; the PCI-E video cards I'm interested in (X800 XT and 6800GT) are generally more expensive than their AGP counterparts; and, the AGP 8x bus does not appear to be saturated yet so it's still not holding back at least the current generation of video cards.

Regards,

Bud

 

[rise]

not knowing how much you plan to spend or your time frame let me say-

fair enough

i'd rather just take the plunge now. the psu could be an issue but many people still use a 20 pin or a 20-24 pin connector on the nf4 boards.

it'll be interesting to watch the hot deal forums for deals on both nv and ati after the 7800's are released.

 

[VIAN]

I'm going PCI-E, I aint taking no chances. Plus, I'm due for a upgrade.