I really hope for all our sake that Obama pulls this thing out.

TheoPetro

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I honestly dont think he is the man for the job but there isnt anything anyone can do about it now. I just hope he keeps an open mind w.r.t. how to get out of the financial crisis. Anyone see him leaning more moderate-right to appease his new supporters so he ups his chances of reelection in 4 years?
 

TheoPetro

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Originally posted by: sandorski
He was the best Candidate to deal with the current situation.

I disagree for many reasons but thats not what this post was about. I was looking for opinions on what people think he will do to keep his new supporters happy. I definitely dont think he will be flying to the far left anytime soon. Just wondering what everyone else was thinking on it.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
I honestly dont think he is the man for the job but there isnt anything anyone can do about it now. I just hope he keeps an open mind w.r.t. how to get out of the financial crisis. Anyone see him leaning more moderate-right to appease his new supporters so he ups his chances of reelection in 4 years?

I believe he will, but for different reasons. Yes, hes about as liberal as you can get; however I believe we'll see more of a centrist in a year. He doesnt have PACS in his pocket, he isnt jaded or brainwashed or too much out of touch. America in general is pretty centrist and see him moving that way. The thing I personally dont look forward to is white house/house/senate. That scares me more than Obama alone. I prefer to see opposing parties in congress and white house for moderation. Keeps the looney's in check IMHO.
 

kylebisme

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The phrasing of the title made me think Blazing Saddles, "Excuse me while I whip this out."
 

TheoPetro

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
I honestly dont think he is the man for the job but there isnt anything anyone can do about it now. I just hope he keeps an open mind w.r.t. how to get out of the financial crisis. Anyone see him leaning more moderate-right to appease his new supporters so he ups his chances of reelection in 4 years?

I believe he will, but for different reasons. Yes, hes about as liberal as you can get; however I believe we'll see more of a centrist in a year. He doesnt have PACS in his pocket, he isnt jaded or brainwashed or too much out of touch. America in general is pretty centrist and see him moving that way. The thing I personally dont look forward to is white house/house/senate. That scares me more than Obama alone. I prefer to see opposing parties in congress and white house for moderation. Keeps the looney's in check IMHO.

100% agree. It looks like they wont get the 60 seats needed for a filibuster proof senate but holy hell they do control all 3. Thats when scary stuff happens.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Originally posted by: sandorski
He was the best Candidate to deal with the current situation.

I disagree for many reasons but thats not what this post was about. I was looking for opinions on what people think he will do to keep his new supporters happy. I definitely dont think he will be flying to the far left anytime soon. Just wondering what everyone else was thinking on it.

He has surrounded himself with Good Advisors. He's more qualified for that reason alone.
 

kranky

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He's in an ideal position. He was elected because people weren't happy with the current situation (economy, war, you name it). If nothing gets better, he can always remind people that he inherited the problem, he didn't cause it. If things do improve, he can take credit for it. And if Congress starts throwing more money around, people will be ecstatic. Money for mortgage bailouts, money for education, money for college students (you can count on that, after they voted 70% for Obama).

Realistically, he cannot ruin anything nor can he fix everything. The President just doesn't have that much power. The thing that will irritate me the most is having to pay more taxes while the wasteful spending by Congress just keeps increasing.
 

Skitzer

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Realistically, he cannot ruin anything nor can he fix everything. The President just doesn't have that much power. The thing that will irritate me the most is having to pay more taxes while the wasteful spending by Congress just keeps increasing.

+1 Hold on to your wallets boys ...... it's gonna be a rough ride!
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Originally posted by: sandorski
He was the best Candidate to deal with the current situation.

I disagree for many reasons but thats not what this post was about. I was looking for opinions on what people think he will do to keep his new supporters happy. I definitely dont think he will be flying to the far left anytime soon. Just wondering what everyone else was thinking on it.

I don't think we can say, but presidents don't have to compromise a lot to get political support. There are boundaries, but they can, if they're skilled, lead the country in a new direction. George Bush "won" an incredibly close election, by hundreds of votes in Florida where the thousands of votes for Gore were lost by accident and theft, and yet he did not 'move to the center', he pursued a radical right agenda, and it even worked politically at first, until incompetence became clear.

John Kennedy won an extremely close election, and while he was careful with his positioning, he pursued liberal policies and moved the country to the left.

Ronald Reagan was seen a a far-right wing candidate, but he too did not 'go center' in power, and built political support - unfortunately for the nation - for a right-wing agenda.

Presidents who do stay more to the center tend to be more vulnerable, is my first impression to the question. Clinton was an exception there.

I'd like Obama to have a strong progressive agenda and move the country there, like FDR.
 

Magusigne

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Originally posted by: kranky
He's in an ideal position. He was elected because people weren't happy with the current situation (economy, war, you name it). If nothing gets better, he can always remind people that he inherited the problem, he didn't cause it. If things do improve, he can take credit for it. And if Congress starts throwing more money around, people will be ecstatic. Money for mortgage bailouts, money for education, money for college students (you can count on that, after they voted 70% for Obama).

Realistically, he cannot ruin anything nor can he fix everything. The President just doesn't have that much power. The thing that will irritate me the most is having to pay more taxes while the wasteful spending by Congress just keeps increasing.

^^^ This