I quit Atkins this weekend

[damiano]

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: damiano
hummmm cheeseburger and fries

With a shake~🙂

a beer 😛

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Atkins is bad for you. All that protien you eat kills you kidneys. Im a trainer at the gym and a lot of people I meet do this diet which I admit tried myself. The prolem is people on this diet come into the gym and are exhausted and show no gains in the amout of weight they lift. The reason is there starving there body of essential vitamins. I mean you NEED SOME SUGAR. Its what keeps you going during the day. If you really want to lose weight and get toned no matter what you matabolism is, eat a bowl of serial for breakfast with some fruit. The morning is the most essential part of the day and you will burn it off by the end of the day if you work out or do light work. Then throughout the day each whatever you want, just keep the carbs under 50g. BTW no one realizes this but you body can only handle 34g of protien in a given 6 hours so all you people who drink like 50 protien shakes are wasting you money. After 34g are absorbed, the rest is thrown away into waster

Just my 2 cents

I concur...

Not only are you damaging your kidneys, but you're overworking your liver - because of all the Urea that needs processed (and the ammonia from the process can damage the liver).

And your muscles need carbs to rebuild, and your brain needs them to function.

I think instead of a full Atkins diet or a full Cabbage soup diet or a full Fruit diet or whatever other radical diets there are, it's better just to permanently adjust your eating habits.

If you limit your carb intake to just rices, potatoes, fruits, etc. and cut out all glutens (breads and pastas) and processed sugars (high-fructose corn syrup, table sugar), you'd notice amazing results.

And reduce your caffeine intake as well...

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: damiano

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: damiano
hummmm cheeseburger and fries

With a shake~🙂

a beer 😛

a beer slushie! 😛

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: damiano

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: damiano
hummmm cheeseburger and fries

With a shake~🙂

a beer 😛

a beer slushie! 😛

A beer float. 🙂

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: damiano

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: damiano
hummmm cheeseburger and fries

With a shake~🙂

a beer 😛

a beer slushie! 😛

A beer float. 🙂

Dang I am thirsty now and it is only 9:17am...🙁

 

[imported_Papi]

You are supposed to take vitamins while on Atkins so that you don't lose your energy.

Read the book!

 

[Saulbadguy]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Shanti
I followed the induction rules with the exception of continuing to drink coffee, with a small amount of cream and Splenda.

That is what you did wrong.

Caffeine spikes your insulin levels, completely destroying the benefits of Atkins. Insulin is what is responsible for converts sugars into fats.

My parents are trying to Atkins, my step-dad has lost a lot of weight in the first week and feels great, but my mom has not lost any weight as is freaking out from carb-withdrawl. My mom continues to drink a load of coffee. (My step-dad does not drink coffee, tea, or soda).

If you're going to do a diet, do it right. Otherwise it's pointless.

Not to be an ass or anything but please point to some peer reviewed scientific articles to back up your facts. I am not asking this to be a jerk, but because I have been told otherwise by people who work on a major diabetes committee in DC. I had been told this same exact thing about one's insulin levels being spiked when intaking diet soda containing phenylalanine.......was told by diabetes experts that it was absolutely NOT true.

So at this point when I hear something like this I have to ask for proof, because then once verified I can pass the same information on.

I also doubt the validity of this statement. I don't think even Dr. Atkins mentioned caffiene affecting insulin levels, he just mentioned it stalls weight loss.

Atkins 1

Atkins 2

These studies do not state that caffiene spikes your insulin levels.

The first article talks about the reduction of insulin sensitivity. When more insulin is required to do the same work that less was able to do before, I consider that spiking. I doubt you're going to find an article that uses the word spike.

good atkins forum

It just lowers your sensitivity, it doesn't raise or lower levels of insulin. Do ya think im that dense? 😛

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Shanti
I followed the induction rules with the exception of continuing to drink coffee, with a small amount of cream and Splenda.

That is what you did wrong.

Caffeine spikes your insulin levels, completely destroying the benefits of Atkins. Insulin is what is responsible for converts sugars into fats.

My parents are trying to Atkins, my step-dad has lost a lot of weight in the first week and feels great, but my mom has not lost any weight as is freaking out from carb-withdrawl. My mom continues to drink a load of coffee. (My step-dad does not drink coffee, tea, or soda).

If you're going to do a diet, do it right. Otherwise it's pointless.

Not to be an ass or anything but please point to some peer reviewed scientific articles to back up your facts. I am not asking this to be a jerk, but because I have been told otherwise by people who work on a major diabetes committee in DC. I had been told this same exact thing about one's insulin levels being spiked when intaking diet soda containing phenylalanine.......was told by diabetes experts that it was absolutely NOT true.

So at this point when I hear something like this I have to ask for proof, because then once verified I can pass the same information on.

I also doubt the validity of this statement. I don't think even Dr. Atkins mentioned caffiene affecting insulin levels, he just mentioned it stalls weight loss.

Atkins 1

Atkins 2

These studies do not state that caffiene spikes your insulin levels.

The first article talks about the reduction of insulin sensitivity. When more insulin is required to do the same work that less was able to do before, I consider that spiking. I doubt you're going to find an article that uses the word spike.

good atkins forum

It just lowers your sensitivity, it doesn't raise or lower levels of insulin. Do ya think im that dense? 😛

So then explain what the result of a lowered sensitivity is?

 

[Saulbadguy]

All the talk about "too much protein in the atkins diet" is a bunch of crap 🙂 Also, needing carbohyrdrates may be true..I eat carbs on the atkins diet..tons of carbs..but I tend to avoid most of the carbs that has impact on my blood sugar. So many misconceptions....

 

[Saulbadguy]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Shanti
I followed the induction rules with the exception of continuing to drink coffee, with a small amount of cream and Splenda.

That is what you did wrong.

Caffeine spikes your insulin levels, completely destroying the benefits of Atkins. Insulin is what is responsible for converts sugars into fats.

My parents are trying to Atkins, my step-dad has lost a lot of weight in the first week and feels great, but my mom has not lost any weight as is freaking out from carb-withdrawl. My mom continues to drink a load of coffee. (My step-dad does not drink coffee, tea, or soda).

If you're going to do a diet, do it right. Otherwise it's pointless.

Not to be an ass or anything but please point to some peer reviewed scientific articles to back up your facts. I am not asking this to be a jerk, but because I have been told otherwise by people who work on a major diabetes committee in DC. I had been told this same exact thing about one's insulin levels being spiked when intaking diet soda containing phenylalanine.......was told by diabetes experts that it was absolutely NOT true.

So at this point when I hear something like this I have to ask for proof, because then once verified I can pass the same information on.

I also doubt the validity of this statement. I don't think even Dr. Atkins mentioned caffiene affecting insulin levels, he just mentioned it stalls weight loss.

Atkins 1

Atkins 2

These studies do not state that caffiene spikes your insulin levels.

The first article talks about the reduction of insulin sensitivity. When more insulin is required to do the same work that less was able to do before, I consider that spiking. I doubt you're going to find an article that uses the word spike.

good atkins forum

It just lowers your sensitivity, it doesn't raise or lower levels of insulin. Do ya think im that dense? 😛

So then explain what the result of a lowered sensitivity is?

It means you would eventually end up eating more carbs to produce the same result. So, caffiene may INdirectly cause a spike in insulin levels, but not directly.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: MangoTBG
Remember "Sugar Free" doesn't mean they don't contain sweetners. And also remember that the only recommened sweetener is Splenda. I'd advise checking out atkins.com and re-read what it says. You broke a few rules (this isn't comeing from someone on the diet, but someone about to get on it) and as far as I've read, the ones you broke directly affect bloodsugar which affects energy and cholestoral. Two things that you don't want to do! Goodluck.

The sugar free candies I was eating are the Russell Stover line. They primarily use maltitol as a sweetener. I know sucralose(Splenda) is the recommended sweetener, but from the reading I did, maltitol is also acceptable and should not affect blood sugar levels. The only sweetener that you are not supposed to use at all is aspartame because according to Atkins, it can stall weight loss.

But, I do realize that sugar free candies are not on the acceptable foods list for induction.
And I did eat some low carb bread. I guess that is a no-no even if it's only 3g of carbs.
And yes, Atkins says that caffeine can slow or stall weight loss. And I did not just drink a cup in the morning. I probably averaged 4 or 5 cups of coffee a day. So I guess the only way to really know if it will work for me would be to really follow the rules perfectly.
Cut out caffeine and only eat what is on the acceptable foods list.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Also, needing carbohyrdrates may be true.

It is true.

 

[rickn]

I think your approach to the diet was all wrong. You will have your moments of feeling like crap. You feel like crap on a fat free diet. Sometimes you feel like crap on a regular diet with lots of excercise. No pain no gain.

this is what atkins says about caffeine. Dr. Atkins NDR pg 309-310

q: I can't start my day without coffee. Why can't I have it on this diet?
a: simply this: caffeine stimulates the insulin mechanism, and that's your vulnerable spot. It raises blood sugar at first and then allows it to crash. This could mean fatigue, irritability, cravings, increased appetite, or the like. If you try the diet for two weeks without caffeine, and would then like to re-introduce it to see if you notice any of these effects, and you do not, you may find it acceptable to have a small amount of coffee from time to time

I also recommend Ketostix for anyone who uses Atkins

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: rickn
I think your approach to the diet was all wrong. You will have your moments of feeling like crap. You feel like crap on a fat free diet. Sometimes you feel like crap on a regular diet with lots of excercise. No pain no gain.

this is what atkins says about caffeine. Dr. Atkins NDR pg 309-310

q: I can't start my day without coffee. Why can't I have it on this diet?
a: simply this: caffeine stimulates the insulin mechanism, and that's your vulnerable spot. It raises blood sugar at first and then allows it to crash. This could mean fatigue, irritability, cravings, increased appetite, or the like. If you try the diet for two weeks without caffeine, and would then like to re-introduce it to see if you notice any of these effects, and you do not, you may find it acceptable to have a small amount of coffee from time to time

I also recommend Ketostix for anyone who uses Atkins

You may be right.
It was just that after hearing the success stories, I was convinced it would work wonders.
It wasn't just feeling like crap.
It was feeling like crap plus the fact that I hadn't lost any weight at all in the previous 6 days.
That just didn't seem right when most people I have talked to have lost a pound a day during induction and have felt really good after the first couple of days.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: rickn
I think your approach to the diet was all wrong. You will have your moments of feeling like crap. You feel like crap on a fat free diet. Sometimes you feel like crap on a regular diet with lots of excercise. No pain no gain.

this is what atkins says about caffeine. Dr. Atkins NDR pg 309-310

q: I can't start my day without coffee. Why can't I have it on this diet?
a: simply this: caffeine stimulates the insulin mechanism, and that's your vulnerable spot. It raises blood sugar at first and then allows it to crash. This could mean fatigue, irritability, cravings, increased appetite, or the like. If you try the diet for two weeks without caffeine, and would then like to re-introduce it to see if you notice any of these effects, and you do not, you may find it acceptable to have a small amount of coffee from time to time

I also recommend Ketostix for anyone who uses Atkins

You may be right.
It was just that after hearing the success stories, I was convinced it would work wonders.
It wasn't just feeling like crap.
It was feeling like crap plus the fact that I hadn't lost any weight at all in the previous 6 days.
That just didn't seem right when most people I have talked to have lost a pound a day during induction and have felt really good after the first couple of days.

most people who lose 10lbs the first week or two it's all water. as a general rule on any diet, 2-3lbs a week is the norm. Also, if you are working out, lifting weights, putting on muscle mass, a weight scale is not going to accurately reflect that. Muscle is denser than fat. You could lose 40lbs of fat, and put on 10lbs of muscle weight. The scale is going to tell you you've only lost 30lbs. I think scales are dangerous to anyone on a diet. Use them only once a week, or once a month is even better. If you really want to know if Atkins is working, Ketostix will definitely tell you

 

[Joker81]

I'm on the Atkins Diet and I've read the book and have found that Im losing weight quite regularly about 15 pounds after about 3-1/2 weeks. I know that the first pounds were definitly water weight so thats why the number is so high.

I do tend to break the rule of the aspertame(diet coke and such) and the caffine since its in the diet stuff. And I do some times have the endulge bars.

However I have found many low-carb/no-carb solutions to my diet drinks(aspetame free) that taste good. Diet Rite I noticed uses splenda now. Diet Hansens also has. The kiwi tangerine is good and so is the black cherry, stay away from the ginger ale tho.

I feel that I eat less now then I did before and am not as hungry. I should be exercising more however. I have started to do some simple weight lifting to keep the muscle mass.

One question I have for the experts is what carbohydrates don't affect the blood sugar.
The ones I know are:
Fiber
Sugar Alcohols
Gylcerol(sp?)

Are there others?

For people starting out make sure you check out the organic section of your grocery store they sometimes keep their diet stuff there. I found many many different new options in the stores. LeCarb I just found last night its pretty good.

My girlfriend is definitly having the hardest time but luckily she has me to keep her on track. We found that the sugar free creme savers have 0 net carbs(it does have sugar alcohols).

I think this is one of the easiest diets to be on since it doesn't limit you to low fat things. You can still eat a cheeseburger from mcdonalds(without bun ketchup onions). and you are only have 1 carb from that.

Oh btw whoever mentions milkshake. I just looked at mcdonalds website and a large milkshake has 105% of RDA of saturated fat in it.

And just a reminder READ THE BOOK. It seems that their are two types of people who talk about the Atkins diet 1) people who are on it and losing weight and 2) people who don't know jack about it who complain that people shouldn't be on it.

I hope you had fun wasting 10 minutes reading this. Im glad you did 🙂.