I put someone in prison for life today . . .

[Don Vito Corleone]

Whew! Today, we finally had sentencing on a horrifying child molestation case I have been working to prosecute since February. The offenses were almost too ghastly to comprehend, and the case has really haunted me. The offender was convicted of a laundry list of charges, involving the rape and molestation of his daughters over several years, in addition to some other offenses. He received life in prison, which is a pretty staggering sentence in my jurisdiction (it may, in fact, be the highest sentence ever adjudged in our system for a child sex case), but I have gotten to know the victims and their moms, and I feel terrible for them. I am relieved about the sentence, but there is no room to celebrate when I look at the aftermath.

I know there are people who prosecute child sex cases full time - God knows how they can do it. In any event, I am very glad that SOB will never spend another day as a free man.

 

[Mill]

My hat is off to you. Good job.

 

[AreaCode707]

Thanks for all your work getting someone like that put away. Good job.

 

[minendo]

That guy will more than likely be killed in prison. Priosoners are generally not fond of child molestors.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Good job putting the sick son of a bitch away.

Thank you.

 

[ElFenix]

i hope without parole, though that might be too much to ask

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: HotChic
Thanks for all your work getting someone like that put away. Good job.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i hope without parole, though that might be too much to ask

That was what we asked for, but he was given life with the possibility of parole. That sentence would almost certainly have been reduced on appeal. In my jurisdiction, there has been one other life sentence for child molestation, but it was reduced to 40 years on appeal - fortunately our facts were significantly worse than those in the prior case. I am told that offenders like this virtually never get parole anyway, so it is probably a moot point.

 

[ScottyB]

Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

 

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i hope without parole, though that might be too much to ask

That was what we asked for, but he was given life with the possibility of parole. That sentence would almost certainly have been reduced on appeal. In my jurisdiction, there has been one other life sentence for child molestation, but it was reduced to 40 years on appeal - fortunately our facts were significantly worse than those in the prior case. I am told that offenders like this virtually never get parole anyway, so it is probably a moot point.

What state are you in? I hear some states are getting rid of parole all together.

EDIT: BTW...Awesome job!

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Whew! Today, we finally had sentencing on a horrifying child molestation case I have been working to prosecute since February.

5,000 grasshopper points for you! Good job!

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

With murder the victim is dead. Rape/abuse the victim will have to live with their entire life. I'm all for unconditional death sentences for rapists.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

With murder the victim is dead. Rape/abuse the victim will have to live with their entire life. I'm all for unconditional death sentences for rapists.

Agreed!!!!!!!!

Grasshopper

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

What state are you in? I hear some states are getting rid of parole all together.

EDIT: BTW...Awesome job!

I am in the Air Force. I don't mean to sound too cryptic - I am used to keeping my professional business quiet, but now the case is a matter of public record, so I guess I am OK!

 

[ThePresence]

Good job, thank you.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Good job, thank you.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

Boy, I don't agree at all. Child molesters have much higher rate of recidivism than murderers, and I could make a case that the victim impact is even greater in child molestation, since the victims of molestation are quite likely to become molesters themselves, whereas murder victims are obviously not around to continue the criminal cycle.

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

If you think this does not justify life in prison, I respectfully disagree.

 

[Kadarin]

Congratulations

Anyone watch this past week's CSI: Miami? There are some pretty sick people out there..

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

Boy, I don't agree at all. Child molesters have much higher rate of recidivism than murderers, and I could make a case that the victim impact is even greater in child molestation, since the victims of molestation are quite likely to become molesters themselves, whereas murder victims are obviously not around to continue the criminal cycle.

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

If you think this does not justify life in prison, I respectfully disagree.

Life in prison? Hell... that list merits the death penalty, in my book. This guy is hardwired to get off on that stuff, and there's no changing that, no "rehabilitation".

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

Boy, I don't agree at all. Child molesters have much higher rate of recidivism than murderers, and I could make a case that the victim impact is even greater in child molestation, since the victims of molestation are quite likely to become molesters themselves, whereas murder victims are obviously not around to continue the criminal cycle.

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

If you think this does not justify life in prison, I respectfully disagree.

Dont worry about parole, this guy wont last a month in prison.

 

[BlamoHammer]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

Boy, I don't agree at all. Child molesters have much higher rate of recidivism than murderers, and I could make a case that the victim impact is even greater in child molestation, since the victims of molestation are quite likely to become molesters themselves, whereas murder victims are obviously not around to continue the criminal cycle.

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

If you think this does not justify life in prison, I respectfully disagree.

Life in prison? Hell... that list merits the death penalty, in my book. This guy is hardwired to get off on that stuff, and there's no changing that, no "rehabilitation".

It's easy to say that type of thing when you're not the one who pulls the lever. I am in no way endorsing what this guy did, nor am I endorsing light penalties for crimes of these magnitudes. All I'm trying to say is that if you are going to be a proponent of the death penalty, be sure that if it came down to it you be willing to do the deed yourself. If you cant see yourself doing it then maybe you dont really believe in it.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Good job for getting rid of the trash, but I can't say I am totally pleased because I believe that murder is the only thing that warrants life in prison (unless your LIP is like 25-35 years).

Boy, I don't agree at all. Child molesters have much higher rate of recidivism than murderers, and I could make a case that the victim impact is even greater in child molestation, since the victims of molestation are quite likely to become molesters themselves, whereas murder victims are obviously not around to continue the criminal cycle.

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

If you think this does not justify life in prison, I respectfully disagree.

I would rather see him put in a psych-ward to be rehabilitated and a 15 year prison sentence.

 

[Windogg]

Good job. Hats off to people like you for putting away human pond scum.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I would rather see him put in a psych-ward to be rehabilitated and a 15 year prison sentence.

Have you ever studied forensic psychology, or at least read the literature on recidivism in child molesters? There is essentially zero scientific support for the notion that an offender like this can be fixed, or that he can, through treatment, ever be made to stop molesting children. To me, returning him to society is like leaving a hand grenade in the sandbox at a children's playground and hoping they never figure to pull the pin out. I see no reason to leave it to chance, and I am a whole lot happier knowing that he will never have access to kids again.

Moreover, the victims' own psychologist says that their prognosis is poor, and that they will probably suffer from major pathologies for the rest of their lives. To me, a 15-year sentence trivializes the crimes in this case, in contrast to the lifelong suffering of the victims.

Look at it this way: the maximum punishment for a single rape is death. In this case, the evidence showed that the accused raped his youngest daughter 500 - 1000 times. According to your logic, with a 15-year sentence, even if I assume the low end of the number of rapes supported by the evidence, the accused would serve less than two weeks for each time he raped his daughter (leaving aside, for the time being, the other horrific offenses in this case, and ignoring the rape and molestation of this older daughter). If someone raped your 4-year-old daughter, and served two weeks in prison, would you think justice had been served?

If you are serious in your 15-year recommendation, I hope you never have children.

 

[Zebo]

Life in prison? Hell... that list merits the death penalty, in my book. This guy is hardwired to get off on that stuff, and there's no changing that, no "rehabilitation".

LOL, I may need to reconsider my view of the death penalty; because if a case ever deserved death it's this one. I almost pucked while reading don vitos discription of events. This guy premeditated years of horror those children for his own sick satisfation. But I still say the state should'nt be in the killing business.