I present to you...the future of america!

[charrison]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: fyleow
Cut them some slack, you don't really learn anything until you start highschool anyway. Hell I didn't know much about Stalin until I took world history sophmore year. I don't remember being that stupid two years ago though. If it's not something we use everyday we won't remember it but those seem to be pretty basic things to me. How many adult non biology majors here (without using google or encarta) can tell me what the Sanger Method is and how it's done, how it works in detail?

I can, and I am 16. Does that make me smarter than you guys? Certainly not.

So what do you guys learn in your years til' high-school?

State and American History, science, math, reading, writing. World history/geography was not done until high school as I recall.

 

[Amused]

I present to you:

The typical 13-14 year old child.

They are much the same the world over.

 

[fyleow]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: fyleow
Cut them some slack, you don't really learn anything until you start highschool anyway. Hell I didn't know much about Stalin until I took world history sophmore year. I don't remember being that stupid two years ago though. If it's not something we use everyday we won't remember it but those seem to be pretty basic things to me. How many adult non biology majors here (without using google or encarta) can tell me what the Sanger Method is and how it's done, how it works in detail?

I can, and I am 16. Does that make me smarter than you guys? Certainly not.

So what do you guys learn in your years til' high-school?

State and American History, science, math, reading, writing. World history/geography was not done until high school as I recall.

American History is only briefly touched on in junior high/elementary school. And everything you learn from that is usually not complete enough to get the big picture. There are a lot of reasons why things were done, and AFAIK the only things I learned made us Americans look good. High school American History is better, less biased and just the truth. Science is too generalized to be worth anything at all. Math is way behind that of a lot of Asian countries.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: fyleow
Cut them some slack, you don't really learn anything until you start highschool anyway. Hell I didn't know much about Stalin until I took world history sophmore year. I don't remember being that stupid two years ago though. If it's not something we use everyday we won't remember it but those seem to be pretty basic things to me. How many adult non biology majors here (without using google or encarta) can tell me what the Sanger Method is and how it's done, how it works in detail?

I can, and I am 16. Does that make me smarter than you guys? Certainly not.

So what do you guys learn in your years til' high-school?

State and American History, science, math, reading, writing. World history/geography was not done until high school as I recall.

American History is only briefly touched on in junior high/elementary school. And everything you learn from that is usually not complete enough to get the big picture. There are a lot of reasons why things were done, and AFAIK the only things I learned made us Americans look good. High school American History is better, less biased and just the truth. Science is too generalized to be worth anything at all. Math is way behind that of a lot of Asian countries.

I would have to agree High school history is less biased, but still biased. College history tends to be less biased with more detail.

Science is general. Chemisty, physics, biology are just intro courses in high school and not meant to be training classes for the next Einstein.

See a pattern developing here?

 

[Martin]

I dunno about swiss public education, but I can tell you that I don't really like the way Canada and the US approach elementary/high school education (they're pretty much the same).

They seems to waste a LOT of time with useless shiat. For example, if you have to learn about country X, you'd have to reseracha bit, then make everything nice and pretty with graphics..

I used to go to a Bulgarian public school until gr7. In gr. 8 and gr 9 I literally crusided in math and science. I did not learn anything new until gr. 10. My sister (3 years older than me) who went to a Bulgarian highschool spent only 3 years in HS, not the usual 5.

Countries like Russia, India, China and Eastern European countries have a whole different attitude towards education from what I've seen and heard. School is harder, more academic and parents place A LOT of pressure on their children to do well.

 

[Orsorum]

''Our teacher is only making us write five paragraphs and I'm done.''

My favorite quote - sums up most literature in pre-university education.

 

[IGBT]

No surprise American employers rather hire/recruit immigrants. What are these Americans going to do when they're on the high side of 40 and they can't find a job? To old to soon. To smart to late................

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: IGBT
No surprise American employers rather hire/recruit immigrants. What are these Americans going to do when they're on the high side of 40 and they can't find a job? To old to soon. To smart to late................

They do what every other 40 year old does, they manage less skilled younger employees.

 

[fyleow]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: fyleow
Cut them some slack, you don't really learn anything until you start highschool anyway. Hell I didn't know much about Stalin until I took world history sophmore year. I don't remember being that stupid two years ago though. If it's not something we use everyday we won't remember it but those seem to be pretty basic things to me. How many adult non biology majors here (without using google or encarta) can tell me what the Sanger Method is and how it's done, how it works in detail?

I can, and I am 16. Does that make me smarter than you guys? Certainly not.

So what do you guys learn in your years til' high-school?

State and American History, science, math, reading, writing. World history/geography was not done until high school as I recall.

American History is only briefly touched on in junior high/elementary school. And everything you learn from that is usually not complete enough to get the big picture. There are a lot of reasons why things were done, and AFAIK the only things I learned made us Americans look good. High school American History is better, less biased and just the truth. Science is too generalized to be worth anything at all. Math is way behind that of a lot of Asian countries.

I would have to agree High school history is less biased, but still biased. College history tends to be less biased with more detail.

Science is general. Chemisty, physics, biology are just intro courses in high school and not meant to be training classes for the next Einstein.

See a pattern developing here?

I was referring to the Science classes in Junior High/Elementary. We used to have one of those general classes in my high school but they got rid of that. Basically it teaches astronomy, biology, chemistry, physics, geology, environmental sciences etc all in one year. I relearned everything I got from that class (in that specific field) in two days when I took a more specialized science class. For most of us taking AP science classes these are already "college level" supposedly.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Ignorant American kids grow up to be ignorant American voters. It's been happening for 40 years, why would it stop now?

what do you mean 40? its been happening longer than that...

I meant 30. For a brief period, it was cool to watch the news.