Question I oscillate between 8700k ,6800k or 7820x

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HuNTeR-

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I don't have too much money to invest in modern PC platform for the moment,and all i want is, to replace my obsolete system and buy a decent gaming system.For the moment i have an i7 990x processor and i can 't start some modern games like Resident Evil Village and Dying Light 2 just because lack of AVX technology.I wanted to play RE Village so much and i saw it required a strong CPU at minimal requirments,at least an i7 8700k to play...Wow!
I still don't have a budget for i7 8700k+z370 or z390 mobo,and i found a cheap system with i7 6800k paired with Asus rampage 5 extreme mobo.
This system 6800K+asus rampage 5 cost me 200 $. The other system i7 8700k+z370 cost me around 300 $.I found another i7 8700K+z390+32 Gb RAM and this system cost me 400 $.I don't know what to do.My budget is around 300 $ max.
I checked with CPU-z from google,and 8700k and 6800k have same set of Instructions.I'm just wonder if that game Resident Evil village requires at least 8700k to start that game?With 6800k start RE Village or not?I don't want to have problem to buy an entire system and can't start that game....
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p.s i found another oportunity an i7 7820x+MSi x299 Tomahawk at price of 240$. Is a good choice?
 

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igor_kavinski said:
Hmm..I guess there is no dissuading you then. Good luck!
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i don't understand ,why u don't admit u are wrong??U said ,and i quote u : all Intel CPUs before 8th gen are not supported by Windows 11
So i show u, i7 7820x is listed in win 11 compatibilty :)
it is so hard to admit when you're wrong?Nobody is perfect on this earth,we are people not GODS.....

p.s at this part is 1-0 for me :)
 
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HuNTeR- said:
i7 7820x have avx512.It has 2 units of avx512 :)
I trust intel site : https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-11m-cache-up-to-4-30-ghz/specifications.html
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Before I leave this thread, a few last comments. That screen shot of it NOT having avx-512 could be due to bios updates deleted that ability, so trusting or not, your 2 years old CPU will get blown away by Zen 4 in anything, and if you don't have avx-512 for reasons I just said, well, good its now your problem, as you have been warned, and not just by me, by several here. Zen 4 will kill that CPU in every respect, even if it DOES have it with older bios.
 
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Why are you dead set on buying a CPU so obsolete it's out of stock everywhere?

AMD's 7600 has AVX 512 and is faster.
If you stick to Intel then you will want to abandon the AVX 512 requirement. Games don't use it anyway because Intel and AMD are still shipping high end CPUs without it.
 
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If you're really dead set on it, then get a 7820X system the next time one pops up. The 8700K and Broadwell-E both don't have AVX512, so if that's a dealbreaker for you then they're out of contention, and those are the only ones you've listed

I get the appeal, even if it doesn't perform as well as a similarly priced new budget chip you still end up with a tank of a motherboard like that x299 Tomahawk instead of whatever Asrock mATX board is currently cheapest. People are just pointing out that the options you've listed probably aren't the best value for what your stated goals are.
 
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MrTeal said:
If you're really dead set on it, then get a 7820X system the next time one pops up. The 8700K and Broadwell-E both don't have AVX512, so if that's a dealbreaker for you then they're out of contention, and those are the only ones you've listed

I get the appeal, even if it doesn't perform as well as a similarly priced new budget chip you still end up with a tank of a motherboard like that x299 Tomahawk instead of whatever Asrock mATX board is currently cheapest. People are just pointing out that the options you've listed probably aren't the best value for what your stated goals are.
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From experience, those older gen parts seem to carry quite a premium price...UNLESS you can find decent used parts.
 
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A 13500 goes to town with the 7820x, why are you even considering such an old platform? Yes in 13 years games might require avx512, are you going to keep your cpu for 13 years?
 
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Herald said:
A 13500 goes to town with the 7820x, why are you even considering such an old platform?
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13500 is an excellent value, 14 cores for such a price is hard to beat. It competes with another Intel CPU - 13600K, which offers benefits of the newer generation: larger cash, better RAM frequencies, better stock core frequencies and overclockability. I am not sure that giving up all these things is worth the lower price.
 
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9600KF overclocked to 5.0 will perform on par with a 9900K in gaming. That's what I would go with. Only 6 cores, but thats all you need, it's a beast!
 
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In my country all newest CPu like 11600k,9800k,9900k,13500k are listed at very high price.I know and i realised newest CPU are way better than 7820x,but i don't have money to pay high price in my country on those CPU,sorry and i don t wan't to buy from amazon or ebay,i want to buy from my country,and like i said here listed price for new parts are VERY HIGH even on secon hand,not to mention new.

Storm-Chaser from what i know,in my knowledge, 9xxx series from intel CPU have hyper-threading disabled,worst series ever...
 
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Herald said:
A 13500 goes to town with the 7820x, why are you even considering such an old platform? Yes in 13 years games might require avx512, are you going to keep your cpu for 13 years?
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I'd be surprised if in 13 years games needed AVX512. Could happen, but it still seems low probability.
I wouldn't be surprised if in that time span games required DirectStorage with at least a Gen4 NVMe, which would mean a platform upgrade if you're not on a more recent one.
 
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If you can't afford a modern setup like a 5600+b550+16gb ddr4 then save up a little bit more. It's not worth buying old tech especially skylakeX. You're worried about the TDP but what did you expect from a 7+ year old HEDT? There's nothing compelling, it's all compromises. If you need AVX512 then the best cheapest could would be the AMD 7600, which will run circles around any old Intel HEDT processor while running cooler with modern tech like etc.. PCI 5.0, DDR5.
 
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OP has made it clear they want cores, efficient cores, and Intel.

Seems to me that means they should wait until the Intel 12th and 13th gen parts become affordable in their country. As they are leaps and bounds better than the options in the thread title.

But the emphasis on 13th gen Intel is probably fair. For example, the 12500 (Alder Lake) part was only 6 cores, no E-cores (6c/12t) while the 13500 ("Raptor Lake" - although everything below 13600K is recycled Alder Lake) offers 6 p-cores and 8 e-cores for total of 14c/20t. That's a huge leap forward for the budget builder in a refresh on the same platform.
 
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HuNTeR- said:
Storm-Chaser from what i know,in my knowledge, 9xxx series from intel CPU have hyper-threading disabled,worst series ever...
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that was the generation they introduced the i9 I think. i3's became like previous i5's(4 core 4 thread) and i5's moved to 6 core 6 thread. so they kept the cadence and made i7's 8 core 8 thread and left the hyperthreading only to the premium i9's and the low end pentiums.

on top of that 9th gen was still called coffeelake, like the 8th gen. a lot of odd decisions made with that gen.
 
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Speaking about budget builder: 13500 also supports cheap DDR4 memory, and this CPU will probably be "somewhat usable" for the next at least 5 years.
 
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