their specs look pretty normal to me and most of them are around 32x....so why are they so costly???
Raj
Raj
I never understand.......why are Yamaha CD writers so expensive??
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For precisely the same reason HP and Plextor can get away with charging a hefty premium.
Brand name recognition, along with a solid and reliable history. Lo RMA rate, and excellent quality of manufacture.
Because of the above the can often get away with slower and occasionally less features then the compettion while maintaining a high price point.
Brand name recognition, along with a solid and reliable history. Lo RMA rate, and excellent quality of manufacture.
Because of the above the can often get away with slower and occasionally less features then the compettion while maintaining a high price point.
i would agree to some extent, but yamaha are leaders in performance and new feature technology. They use cav (as opposed to z-clv) burning methods and have the largest buffer (8mb). As far as features go... audio master: increases the length of the pits for better quality sound, disct@2 (disc tatoo): the ability to burn images and text onto the free space of cdr's (link here), and top notch quality..
in my opinion, yamaha make the best cdrws on the market, and for me it justisfies the few extra dollars of the initial investment. I have burned hundreds of discs with mine, and it never gives me a hassle.
bagaki
If I have to choose between Plextor and Yamaha, I would choose Yamaha. Like bagaki said, fast CAV burning and huge 8mb buffer (equalled only by some LG and Acer burners).
Yamaha is a good brand cause of the features and speed that their cdrw's have (usually faster when compared to others at the same speed and better on copy protection "usually"), but the RMA rate is not good. I have a friend who has gone through about 6 or 7 scsi Yamaha burners in the past and now he's just going with a cheap ide Liteon.
i am another who has gone through quite a few yamaha scsi burners. the last one lasted me just 3 weeks past the warranty period, and yamaha would not replace the drive. instead they sent me a $50 coupon off my next yamaha drive, if i sent my old one back to them. WTF?? what kind of customer support is that, i buy one, if not the, most expensive drive on the market because they are supposed to be good and all i get is a lousy $50 coupon if i buy another one of their crappy drives, afer the one i had already purchased takes a sh!t, won't write, just read. then send in my old drive so they can probably fix it for .50 then resale it as refurbished for $150? i don't think so. now i am stuck with a piece of sh!t $300 scsi cd-reader, that only reads at about 8-10x on a good day. and no it is not my system. i have had a plextor scsi cd-rom for 4+ years, and it is still my best drive. whenever any other drive i have (7+) can't read a rom quickly, i will put it in the plextor and away it goes. for me, the $50 atapi asus, lite-on or rebadged plextors are my burners of choice. the yamaha was by far the worst drive i have ever bought, regardless of price. if a drive is worth it, i don't have any problems spending my hard earned $$$, but when they take a crap just a very short time after the warranty, and the company that is supposed to stand behind their product tells you too bad, F*** them.
just my opinion
just my opinion
I feel for your problems, but just as a reminder, one person having problems on the forum doesnt mean there is a huge quality control problem with the drives. I've only heard great things about the yamaha drives, and the 44x model with disc t@2 and CAV speeds is suposed to be a wonderful drive, and I'll probably be purchasing one when i feel the need to replace my 16x10x40A Plextor.
Kramer
Heh, its more of a personal preference thing. Are you willing to put up with problems with the drivers for your burner. Do you care if the drive is really noisey? I wouldn't mind spend a extra $50 for a high quality ASUS,Plextor,Yamaha CD-RW Drive.
I've never coastered before on my Lite On and it's quiet too. I sell computers and have gone through a lot of them and never had to RMA a single one either. Hell, my 40X lite on used to do 48X with a firmware upgrade and it STILL didn't coaster.
I'd venture to say
SiS (Chaintech SiS735 board, pretty solid) chipset+AMD processor=Lite-on
Intel processor+Intel Chipset=Yamaha
Heh.. both are pretty solid, but people might prefer Yamaha over Liteon despite the cost advantages. I know I sure as hell do!
Audio Masters sound better on my discman. I love disc T@2 because I can write the artist and album on my CD's. That way they're easily identifiable. I can also put artist/album on people who's personal Band's want me to burn CD's for them. (I tend to charge less for long runs and operate like, 44X CRF1ZS's on my CD burning rig with a 10K atlas) and I can burn out a run of 150 audio masters (Which sound better and have higher compatibility with older discman's) in about 6 hours.
Now let's see *You* hook 8 CD burners to the same system like my friend does. Heh. Won't happen with anything Liteon puts out. Neither will you get a CD readable by every old 1995 discman's which flaot around here (and sound better to boot, espically on the Aiwa Dual DAC machines). It's awesome to see someone feeding 8 CD burner's though it does get tedius. Ah, the greatness of SCSI. His recording setup may have cost an arm and a leg, but it's hella fast without CD audio masters (As in burn 150 discs an hour). Awesome for handing out presentations and the like.
Liteon is good for a cheap and quick sollution that will get you done real fast. But you certianley can't build CD burner armies with them. Unless you're idea of fun is having a bunch of promise controllers in your system. Espically since it's really not a good idea to have master and slave IDE writers on the same chain.
Also, Yamaha CD burners are more atractive and have better archival qualitiey. You also see less C2 errors.
SiS (Chaintech SiS735 board, pretty solid) chipset+AMD processor=Lite-on
Intel processor+Intel Chipset=Yamaha
Heh.. both are pretty solid, but people might prefer Yamaha over Liteon despite the cost advantages. I know I sure as hell do!
Audio Masters sound better on my discman. I love disc T@2 because I can write the artist and album on my CD's. That way they're easily identifiable. I can also put artist/album on people who's personal Band's want me to burn CD's for them. (I tend to charge less for long runs and operate like, 44X CRF1ZS's on my CD burning rig with a 10K atlas) and I can burn out a run of 150 audio masters (Which sound better and have higher compatibility with older discman's) in about 6 hours.
Now let's see *You* hook 8 CD burners to the same system like my friend does. Heh. Won't happen with anything Liteon puts out. Neither will you get a CD readable by every old 1995 discman's which flaot around here (and sound better to boot, espically on the Aiwa Dual DAC machines). It's awesome to see someone feeding 8 CD burner's though it does get tedius. Ah, the greatness of SCSI. His recording setup may have cost an arm and a leg, but it's hella fast without CD audio masters (As in burn 150 discs an hour). Awesome for handing out presentations and the like.
Liteon is good for a cheap and quick sollution that will get you done real fast. But you certianley can't build CD burner armies with them. Unless you're idea of fun is having a bunch of promise controllers in your system. Espically since it's really not a good idea to have master and slave IDE writers on the same chain.
Also, Yamaha CD burners are more atractive and have better archival qualitiey. You also see less C2 errors.
Adul
Elite Member
proud and happy plextor owner.
My 40x12x40A drive broke down and i sent it to RMA and got it back within 10 business days, pretty sweet. They just sent me a brand new drive. Though it was quite stupid for me to call tech support to get an RMA number cause he had me tell him what was wrong and have him say, "it's broken, send it in" .. LOL
My 40x12x40A drive broke down and i sent it to RMA and got it back within 10 business days, pretty sweet. They just sent me a brand new drive. Though it was quite stupid for me to call tech support to get an RMA number cause he had me tell him what was wrong and have him say, "it's broken, send it in" .. LOL
to be honest, what i was most p!$$ed about, was that they would not rma it just 3 weeks out of warranty. when the drive worked, it worked excellent, but the customer support was the problem. if they would have let me rma it, i would praise the drives (which are good) and also praise the customer support, but unfortunately that is not the case. it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth getting burned for $300 when you could have bought another burner for less than 1/2 that (at the time).
But, the 48x Lite-On features CAV burning capabilities at this point in time. However, the buffer is still stuck at 2 MB, though.
I really like the ability to write the higher-quality audio CDs. I write a lot of audio CDs, probably more than data CDs. This would be a very useful feature to me. Of course, I love my current writer, but I am considering a Yamaha drive the next time around.
Honestly I doubt you can tell the difference between a CD that was mastered using Yamaha's technology and regular burning. It's difficult as it is to determine the difference between a CDR and the original CD and that is with very high end audio equipment.
I do not doubt that the Yamaha is a good burner but I could never justify the extra cost. Audio mastering can only be done at low speeds and I doubt I can tell the difference on my relatively modest $800 headphone set up. Disc t@2 seems very interesting but it only works with Nero right? Most of the stuff I burn is in cue/bin format and I am not sure if I can integrate text in with CDR Win or other programs. I heard you need specific media for the images to show up correctly anyway.
If I had to crank out 100s CDs I would get some professional CD duplicator instead of buying 8 Yamaha CDRWs which would probably cost around $800
I do not doubt that the Yamaha is a good burner but I could never justify the extra cost. Audio mastering can only be done at low speeds and I doubt I can tell the difference on my relatively modest $800 headphone set up. Disc t@2 seems very interesting but it only works with Nero right? Most of the stuff I burn is in cue/bin format and I am not sure if I can integrate text in with CDR Win or other programs. I heard you need specific media for the images to show up correctly anyway.
If I had to crank out 100s CDs I would get some professional CD duplicator instead of buying 8 Yamaha CDRWs which would probably cost around $800
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