I need to send VGA signal to an HDTV......

shortylickens

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My training office needs me to hook them up with a solution.

They decided they wanted a means to display info from a computer for training purposes. Mostly PowerPoint with some video and web page.
Rather than get a decent projector and display it on the wall for everyone to see, they decided to piss away money on a 50" Sony LCD. Also, rather than asking the IT people what the best solution was, they went ahead and got the pretty TV instead of one with a VGA input. As a final bonus, they decided that wireless was a much more efficient and hi-quality way to transfer video since wireless is hi-tech.
Normally I avoid using the rolling eyes icon, but lets just say I was less-than thrilled when I finally found out about all this.

I need to convert VGA into Video and then send it wirelessly to a television set 4 feet away. The TV has RGB inputs and I would like to use those for the best reolution possible. Have found plenty of neat little boxes (using Google) that can convert VGA to RGB directly, but those are all cabled kits. Have also found plenty of wireless video kits, but they all seem bulky and it doesnt look like any of them can do 720p or 1080i.

Does anyone here know of an all-in-one kit that fits my needs, or will I have to use two seperate kits to get what I want? If so, what kind of brand names should I be looking for?

As a completely seperate question, does this issue belong here or in the peripherals category?

P.S. We are in a small town and dont have Best Buy, Circuit City or CompUSA. We do have a Staples, and I'll go there after work tonight to explore. Am NOT worried about cost. I want this solution to be as expensive as possible. Hopefully they will use their heads more in the future.

P.P.S. When I say wireless, I do not mean WiFi. I mean plain old 900Mhz or 2.4Ghz wireless media. The network people wont let us do any kind of wireless networking or peripherals.

EDIT # 2: This is sort of what I was talking about, but it only uses regular RCA for the Video Output. No S-video or RGB.
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/PC-TV_GWB-4000.html
 

Saga

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These are the kind of horror stories which make me eternally grateful my signature has to be put on a piece of paper for anything like this to ever happen.
 

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
I want this solution to be as expensive as possible.

lol, its so rare to hear this. anwyays, im not sure if there exsists a way to send high definition video through the air in real time. im guessing using any cable at all is just out of the question?
 

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#1. You might try a different forum such as www.avsforum.com which specializes in home theater setup

what your trying to do is rather esoteric... especially from a computer users standpoint...

The kit you list includes RGB as an Output type in the Text...

On a larger scale, I am not sure you can accomplish something like 720p transmission just using the 900-2.4 scale. Even if you could, it would potentially have a loss in quality due to interference. I read somewhere that a typically monitor cord would carry TBs worth of information every day if in continual use... wireless is just not up to that task. Additionally, you will have to provide external power for the sender and the reciever, ie, you are replacing one wire with 4 ( 2 power, 2 signal). The TV certainly doesn't power attachments and the VGA port doesn't power attachments either.

The closest example of what you are trying to do that I could think of is the Sony "Location Free TV" which uses 802.11 a,b, g to do 800 by 600 max. Sharp and LG make wireless sets as well, again using at least 802.11b to send 1024 by 768 max (in comparison to 1280 by 720 or 720p). Reports I see of the Sharp claim that there is can be dropped frames/static when transmitted just NTSC signals...






 

Matthias99

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They decided they wanted a means to display info from a computer for training purposes. Mostly PowerPoint with some video and web page.
Rather than get a decent projector and display it on the wall for everyone to see, they decided to piss away money on a 50" Sony LCD. Also, rather than asking the IT people what the best solution was, they went ahead and got the pretty TV instead of one with a VGA input. As a final bonus, they decided that wireless was a much more efficient and hi-quality way to transfer video since wireless is hi-tech.
Normally I avoid using the rolling eyes icon, but letts just say I was less-than thrilled when I finally found out about all this.

Quit.

I'm serious.

If you want to try to help them... I've never seen anything that can do high-res VGA wirelessly. Maybe there's something in the professional video production/editing realm, but not that I've ever seen or come into contact with. Your best bet will be to use one of those transcoder boxes to get an RGB out from the computer, then run wires to the display. Maybe you can have a contractor come in and run them through the floor/wall or something, if they want them hidden.
 

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There's over the air HDTV broadcast, there's no equipment that can do the same thing locally?
 

shortylickens

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= Figured it was better to bump my own thread than start a new one. =

Sure enough, the efficiency of the company is not to be outdone. They just bought a device to do what they want. Guess what? It was wireless.
It only does regular RCA. Which works at about 480i I think. Since they dont know any better they think this will be totally great for viewing text on a TV.
(Of course, they would know better if they had asked but thats another issue.)
My sup dropped in off in my lap thursday morning. I have no idea who actually got it. Said check with the appropriate people and then install it.

So I called up the IT department head and found out another juicy little tidbit. When I said the network folks wont let us do WiFi I wasnt entirely correct. We are not allowed to use ANYTHING wireless in the building. No cordless phones, no WiFi, and no cute little devices like this thing. John (the IT head) was very displeased the training people went ahead and bought this toy without going through him. So that little company credit card purchase is coming out of someones ass, not the company budget. So now we are back to sqaure one. Me resending them a 3 month old email with a link to a wired product that will actually work. I did manage to find one for 200 bucks. It'll work in 1080p which is pretty darn good.

On a completely unrelated note, did you guys know the training computer is two feet away from the training TV? :thumbsup:


( :| Assholes. )
 

kylebisme

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If they just bought the TV then surely it has HDMI or at least DVI, why not use that directly instead of messing with expensive transcoders? Also, even if it does have only component you probably don't need a transcoder as pretty muh any modren Radeon supports component out with a simple adapter.
 

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sorry to have a laugh at your expense but stupid people doing stupid things is always funny in some sort of way :p

like snowman said, a HDTV, especially a 50" one, must have a DVI attachment. so a simple cable would be enough...

of course you can try and convince them the gaphics card isnt powerfull enough to send the signals through, so they have to buy a $300+ card... theres expensive for ya :p
 

shortylickens

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Other than time and maybe 10% of my hair folicles, I had no expense.

The MAIN reason I am pissed off is they failed to get a tv with VGA or DVI inputs. Which is irritating as hell, because in another office, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, they have a widescreen tv with VGA inputs. All they had to do was ask around and learn a little. This project could have gone some much smoother. But, once again, a so-called "normal" person thinks they are leet haxors because they found out you can hook a TV up to a computer.
 

kylebisme

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It has HDMI though, eh? HDMI uses the same signal as DVI for video, so you can just get a cable that goes from one plug to the other.
 

zephyrprime

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This is a hilarious thread.

But are you sure the thing doesn't have PC inputs? Every 50" TV that's an LCD or Plasma of some type I found on the sony site has either HDMI or DVI on it. Most also have VGA.

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSH...ductSKU=KDSR50XBR1&TabName=specs&var2=
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/%20INTE...oductSKU=KDFE50A10&TabName=specs&var2=
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tech-d...5Fencoding=UTF8&n=172282&s=electronics

I just don't see how it could possibly only have component inputs.