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mgon154

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Hey guys, this is my first post here at Anandtech. I've been coming here for a while, but I never felt worthy enough to start posting till now.

I'm in the middle of some serious decisions as far as building a rig goes and I just had a few questions from experts because I'm trying to build a very high end PC, but the problem is I don't know what the high end products are. This is important because I'm going to base my whole rig off the comments I get here ^_^

First I'll start off with what I had in mind.

CASE: ATX 1200 (already have)
CPU: i7 975 (4.6Ghz) (already have)
MEM: 12GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000mHz 7-8-7-20
HardDrive: This one is hard because I never research much about the fastest harddrives available. I never use to think how important a harddrive was until I found out about SSD's. I was going to get the 15000rpm Cheetah HD because I thought that was the best, untill I found out about SSD's(thankfully I didn't do it!). So my question for SSD is...

Q1. Is there anything faster than the Intel X25-E Extreme SSD? I've checked goodle and all I get is mixed answers. I ask because it's a year old now! I would presume there is something out there faster now on every bench. I was waiting for the Crucial RealSSD c300 but that doesn't come out till Febuary which is fine. I just don't want to wait past March when I get dual fermi's. I also heard the OCZ Vertex Pro 2 SSD's were going to be top notch, but thats not coming out till March I hear. I'm wondering what there is now.

Q2: What is the fastest available on newegg? (Besides the $4,000 SSD's lol) and has it been benched against the Intel X25-E Extreme?

MOBO: Here's another one I'm having issues deciding on. I'm trying to decide between the eVGA Classied 141-BL-E760-A1 or the E762 becase as some may know me, I OC in a very xtreme way :D and I hear these boards are phenomenal for that purpose. So my questions about these 2 boards are...

Q1. Is there any performance difference between the 4-way sli classified and the E760 classified OC's edition at newegg? Performance is my primary concern and I always figured that 7 PCIE slots would actually hinder performance. They just look so crammed on the board! However, I want to get a TV Tuner, Dual GPU Fermi's (yes, even dual GF104's if they exist anyday) and a PCIE 1x Sound Blaster Card. I can't do that If they don't all fit on the E760.

Q2. A serious question I was thinking about. If I use a PCIE 1x sound card, in a 16x slot, along with 2 dual GPU fermi's in the first two 16x slots, using all 3 16x express lanes, would I still get 16x16 for the cards? Or would the EVGA mobo consider the sound card pcie 1x as a 16x just because it's using that slot? If getting full speed out of my PCIE slots will be a problem with the E760, then the 4-way SLI board is definitely a nobrainer for me, if thats the case. Serious question because this will determine ultimately which board I get.

SOUND CARD: SoundBlaster Fatal!ty Champion Series PCIE 1x (already have)

VIDEO CARD: I was thinking about waiting for the Dual Fermi GF104's (assuming they'll be $749.99 each) but I'm trying to think about that logic. Is that neccessary? It may not be, but i'm extreme unless it would actually hinder my performance. I just want something better than a 5970 (not happy with its performance in a few titles) and please don't flame me for that, its my humble opinion and with the good news about fermi coming, I was thinking if it would be wise to go for dual fermi's? maybe nobody can answer, but hopefully those cards can scale good in SLI, maybe better than our old gen.

COOLING: This might be laughable, but I have a gigantic ultra high velocity propeller fan with an attached air conditioner on the back rushing cold air directly into my PC. Sounds bad doesn't it? I have it modified in a way to prevent condensation and It's been cooling my rigs to freezing levels for years now and I don't think ive ever had a better cooling solution! (You're probably thinking "noisy!", well , the truth is, my case is actually embedded inside a wall! The wall in turn gives me near complete noise cancellation. Nothing feels better than seeing low temps and ultra high clocks comfortably in my living room in total silence :twisted:.
 
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MagickMan

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For SSDs:

Q1: Sandforce or Micron C300. Sandforce IS available now, but it's $4 /GB. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/internal_storage/Mercury_Extreme_SSD_Sandforce

However, like someone around here said recently, I'd wait until the second gen Sandforce. There will be bugs and I'm giving them time to work any of them out.

Q2: Check out the OCZ Colossus, 4 Indilinx controllers! Though, I think the X25-E is faster in some situations.
 

mgon154

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For SSDs:

Q1: Sandforce or Micron C300. Sandforce IS available now, but it's $4 /GB. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/internal_storage/Mercury_Extreme_SSD_Sandforce

However, like someone around here said recently, I'd wait until the second gen Sandforce. There will be bugs and I'm giving them time to work any of them out.

Q2: Check out the OCZ Colossus, 4 Indilinx controllers! Though, I think the X25-E is faster in some situations.

The OWC Mercury Extreme Enterprise Class SSD looks pretty nice. They seem to be cheap. I was a little bugged on buying a 64GB Intel X25-E Extreme SSD for $799. I'm confused with numbers when it comes to SSD's because Intel's paper specs don't look as impressive as many others, yet it outperforms most of them? That's confusing to me, but i'll look into the OCZ Colossus and see if I can find benches vs the Intel, and hopefully the OWC. The c300 is suppose to be the first SSD to do 6GB/s. I think $499 for a 64GB but don't quote me on that. :hmm:
 

Davidh373

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Hey guys, this is my first post here at Anandtech. I've been coming here for a while, but I never felt worthy enough to start posting till now.

I'm in the middle of some serious decisions as far as building a rig goes and I just had a few questions from experts because I'm trying to build a very high end PC, but the problem is I don't know what the high end products are. This is important because I'm going to base my whole rig off the comments I get here ^_^

First I'll start off with what I had in mind.

CASE: ATX 1200 (already have)
CPU: i7 975 (4.6Ghz) (already have)
MEM: 12GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000mHz 7-8-7-20
HardDrive: This one is hard because I never research much about the fastest harddrives available. I never use to think how important a harddrive was until I found out about SSD's. I was going to get the 15000rpm Cheetah HD because I thought that was the best, untill I found out about SSD's(thankfully I didn't do it!). So my question for SSD is...

Q1. Is there anything faster than the Intel X25-E Extreme SSD? I've checked goodle and all I get is mixed answers. I ask because it's a year old now! I would presume there is something out there faster now on every bench. I was waiting for the Crucial RealSSD c300 but that doesn't come out till Febuary which is fine. I just don't want to wait past March when I get dual fermi's. I also heard the OCZ Vertex Pro 2 SSD's were going to be top notch, but thats not coming out till March I hear. I'm wondering what there is now.

Q2: What is the fastest available on newegg? (Besides the $4,000 SSD's lol) and has it been benched against the Intel X25-E Extreme?

MOBO: Here's another one I'm having issues deciding on. I'm trying to decide between the eVGA Classied 141-BL-E760-A1 or the E762 becase as some may know me, I OC in a very xtreme way :D and I hear these boards are phenomenal for that purpose. So my questions about these 2 boards are...

Q1. Is there any performance difference between the 4-way sli classified and the E760 classified OC's edition at newegg? Performance is my primary concern and I always figured that 7 PCIE slots would actually hinder performance. They just look so crammed on the board! However, I want to get a TV Tuner, Dual GPU Fermi's (yes, even dual GF104's if they exist anyday) and a PCIE 1x Sound Blaster Card. I can't do that If they don't all fit on the E760.

Q2. A serious question I was thinking about. If I use a PCIE 1x sound card, in a 16x slot, along with 2 dual GPU fermi's in the first two 16x slots, using all 3 16x express lanes, would I still get 16x16 for the cards? Or would the EVGA mobo consider the sound card pcie 1x as a 16x just because it's using that slot? If getting full speed out of my PCIE slots will be a problem with the E760, then the 4-way SLI board is definitely a nobrainer for me, if thats the case. Serious question because this will determine ultimately which board I get.

SOUND CARD: SoundBlaster Fatal!ty Champion Series PCIE 1x (already have)

VIDEO CARD: I was thinking about waiting for the Dual Fermi GF104's (assuming they'll be $749.99 each) but I'm trying to think about that logic. Is that neccessary? It may not be, but i'm extreme unless it would actually hinder my performance. I just want something better than a 5970 (not happy with its performance in a few titles) and please don't flame me for that, its my humble opinion and with the good news about fermi coming, I was thinking if it would be wise to go for dual fermi's? maybe nobody can answer, but hopefully those cards can scale good in SLI, maybe better than our old gen.

COOLING: This might be laughable, but I have a gigantic ultra high velocity propeller fan with an attached air conditioner on the back rushing cold air directly into my PC. Sounds bad doesn't it? I have it modified in a way to prevent condensation and It's been cooling my rigs to freezing levels for years now and I don't think ive ever had a better cooling solution! (You're probably thinking "noisy!", well , the truth is, my case is actually embedded inside a wall! The wall in turn gives me near complete noise cancellation. Nothing feels better than seeing low temps and ultra high clocks comfortably in my living room in total silence :twisted:.

This is way far beyond what you need for anything, or WILL need for anything gaming until you decide usb, DDR3, and PCIe x16 are way too outdated. Any and all practicality is removed from this build.
I have a lesser i7 build because i'm into Heavy 3D Rendering... Are you using this to do complex scientific calculation?

Anyway, Fermi and CUDA aren't really necessary at all yet. Fermi GPUs are supposed to work taking full advantage of both GPUs from what I understand.

I don't trust SSDs yet. The whole write limit really freaks me out...
 

Davidh373

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Yes, I know, But the very fact that you wouldn't be able to pull data off if you did reach the write limit is concerning, or is it only that you cannot write to a sector anymore?
 

Davidh373

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Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. Anyway, I still think they're a bit too expensive, but if he want's one and he has the money what difference does it make. Go for it.
 

ScorcherDarkly

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So does anybody know anything? Should I simplify it?

Yes. Make a new thread and follow the second sticky at the top of the page in this forum. List the components you already have, what you're wanting to do with your new build, and how much you have to spend on it. List what you've got picked out so far, but don't be married to your parts list. If you're basing your entire build off recommendations from this site, then ask general questions instead of the highly part-specific ones you've been asking in the other forums so far.

What you've got listed is way over the top in a lot of areas, and way under in others. For example, you've chosen to go with X-25Es because you've been told they're the fastest in existence, without thinking about how in the hell you're going to deal with a 64 GB OS/app drive. Instead, you could pick up a 256 GB SSD from OCZ (or some other Indilinx drive maker) for the same or less money, and not notice any hit in performance. None.

There are a lot of people on here willing to help out. Try this out and I bet you get what you're after.
 

mgon154

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Yes. Make a new thread and follow the second sticky at the top of the page in this forum. List the components you already have, what you're wanting to do with your new build, and how much you have to spend on it. List what you've got picked out so far, but don't be married to your parts list. If you're basing your entire build off recommendations from this site, then ask general questions instead of the highly part-specific ones you've been asking in the other forums so far.

What you've got listed is way over the top in a lot of areas, and way under in others. For example, you've chosen to go with X-25Es because you've been told they're the fastest in existence, without thinking about how in the hell you're going to deal with a 64 GB OS/app drive. Instead, you could pick up a 256 GB SSD from OCZ (or some other Indilinx drive maker) for the same or less money, and not notice any hit in performance. None.

There are a lot of people on here willing to help out. Try this out and I bet you get what you're after.
I apologize, i'll delete this thread. By the way, 64GB is for my primary OS and just a 'few' games and apps. I have 2TB for storage.