I need some family advice

iamwiz82

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I usually frown upon posting stuff like this but here goes:


Background

I have 4 brothers, we will call them R, P, M, and A. They are in the order they were born, with myself coming last. They range in age from 34-39 (useless trivia, R & P are 9 months and 2 days apart).

R is diagnosed as being bipolar triggered by alcohol. About 7 years ago, he snapped and went into a catatonic state for about one year. His wife took care of him and their son during this time. He did not work, go out, talk, he just sat there. He was petrified that crows and pigs were coming to get him. This took place because he decided he no longer wanted his meds and instead, preferred beer.



About 2 years ago, A started dating a woman. I did not find her to be particularly great, but he is no catch himself. They moved in together and became engaged.

While they were dating, R and his wife seperated and filed for divorce. R moved in with A and his girlfriend temporarily. Well, about one week later, A walked in to find R and A's girlfriend haivng sex in A's bed. Needless to say, A freaked and threw them both out. R and the girlfriend moved in together.
They then got married about 2 months later.

Since this time, R has been in jail no less than 4 times. He has beaten up his wife twice, burned down his trailer, and attacked the police. Usually these occur during holidays, most recently, New Years. After all of this, the courts threw him in jail and had him psychiatrically evaluated. It came back that he was on the wrong meds and received a new prescription. Since then, things have been very calm.

My parents originally hated the woman who broke up the family. A and R still do not talk and A becomes enraged whenever he finds out that my parents have talked to R. To calm my parents down, P began as a mediator between R and the family. P has pushed for everyone to forget about everything and has pretty much matched things up between my parents and R and his wife. In fact, my parents recently gave them a car and a good deal of money.

Fast forward to last night. I received a letter from P addressed to all the brothers. The letter was basically a plea for everyone to come together and to forget the past. P pointed out that my parents are getting older, and by the time that they were our age, they had already buried their parents. I do not agree with this.

Honestly, I feel I will never trust R again, nor do I want to. He has spit in the face of everyone with his antics and I have voiced my opinion to everyone that they just strike all ties with him.

The big problem is that I am getting married in less than a year. I have told my family that I am not inviting R and there has been some hostility towards me because of it. I feel that if R & A are in the same room together, there will be some major problems, and I am not using my wedding as an arena for this bout.

My family is telling me that A is the real problem now, not R. R has the correct medications and is no longer causing the problems he once did. They believe the issue at hand is that A does not forgive R. I say that R is a danger to society and needs to be locked away.


CLIFF NOTES:

R sleeps with A's fiancee.
R marries A's exfiancee.
R gets arrested 4 times.
Family wants A to forgive R
Family wants R at my wedding
 

vi edit

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My best friend's wife never invited her own dad to their wedding because they were afraid he would cause hell to break loose. He was a meth head, had been in jail 4 or 5 times and was a just a grade a piece of trailer trash.

Your wedding is for you. Not other people. Regardless of how family members try to spin it. It's your day, not theirs. If you think theirs a chance he'll self implode and turn it into a disaster, don't feel bad not inviting him.

Hell, my wife's family and mine were grouchy twords us since the two families are 1000 miles apart. Neither one wanted to drive to the other's place and complained about it. So we said F'yall and eloped to the Caribbean for a week and got married there.

Remember it's a day for your wife and you. Not other people.
 

Lazy8s

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I agree that your wedding day is yours and that if you didn't want to invite a single member of your family then you shouldn't have to, however:

if R truly suffered from a non-diagnosed medical disorder then I don't see any choice but to forgive him, however my mom is a Psychologist so I understand that mental disorders can inhibit peoplein the same way as a broken leg, if their mind's not working it just isn't and it's not their fault. If you think A and R will have problems (which I can see why they would) IF you want to invite them both then sit down with them both and say "Listen, this is my day so you can both STFU and keep it togeather. I don't care about your problems, you're both my brothers and you're both going to be there and if you fsck it up I will never forgive either of you." and if they truly love you and truly are brothers they can keep their mouth shut for a couple hours while you get married and then leave.

I personaly think it's sad that you think your brothers would possible ruin your wedding, and even worse if they actually would, but it being "your day" goes both ways. 1)invite whoever you want, and 2)they should both respect it enough to be able to come and be civil.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Whats M have to say about it?;)

I have not seen M in quite awhile. He is "disabled" and is currently on vacation, though he does not work. :confused:
 

kranky

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Only you can decide what you are comfortable with, but this is what I would do in that situation.

I'd talk to A and ask if he could patch things up with R because I would like both of them to come to the wedding, but only if they can set aside their differences. I'd tell A that holding a grudge against R all this time isn't doing anyone any good, even though it's completely understandable why he feels the way he does.

Since R has been doing well for months, perhaps his new meds are handling the problem. I'd ask R if he could come to the wedding, not drink, and be civil to A and everyone else.

OK, now having said that...

You already said you want nothing to do with R. So if your mind is made up, then don't invite him. The downside is that your parents may feel you are wrong, but you might tell them that it's your wedding and you will just have to agree to disagree on this point.

Maybe if a few more months pass and R is still doing well, you could reconsider. But you'll still have a problem if A can't manage to be around R without causing problems. Basically you end up having to choose between A and R. Not a situation I'd want to be in.
 

KarenMarie

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You do NOT have to keep the peace in your family just cause someone tells you to. You do not have to back down, eat crow and anything else to please anyone. R's actions had severe consequences and they are not to be pushed aside or swept away. Changing ones meds (and trust me, I was misdiagnosed as BiPolar and was given the wrong meds for years, so I know what it is like) does not undo or make up for ones actions.

R is an adult, he blew apart your family. A did not, you did not.. R did! And it is up to him to at least try to make amends. R owes your brother, your parents and you a HUGE amount of apologies a long time of busting his azz to work and make things right. He does not get to skate for what he did, just cause he is family. I am not saying that you should never forgive, but hellfire, what has R done to make amends?

R is not automatically entitled to forgiveness just cause your parents want that. Family members do not get to behave in any manner, cause any amount of damage and have it be all ok, cause it is blood.

It is your wedding, if you dont want him there, he doesn't get invited. End of story. And you don't have to explain, play mediator, moderator and anything else.

My $0.02
:)