I need help picking out a Camcorder.

Sforsyth

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Is it true with a DV Camcorder you can turn your videos into DVD's easy with a USB cable?

I have a Hi 8 Camcorder and a All in Wonder card but when I make the video on my PC it looks like crap will a DV camcorder do a way better job?

Thanks !
 

bruceb

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Depemds on the brand and model ... I would expect to find Firewire
as it is much faster than USB for video transfers
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Sforsyth
Is it true with a DV Camcorder you can turn your videos into DVD's easy with a USB cable?

Well, yes, but keep in mind that the data transfer is 1:1, meaning it takes the same amount of time to bring in the video as the length of the video you are capturing.

I have a Hi 8 Camcorder and a All in Wonder card but when I make the video on my PC it looks like crap will a DV camcorder do a way better job?

Thanks !

ROFL, yes, any DV cam will make your Hi8 look like the relic it is.
 

IlllI

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i believe there are also some models that do away with the tape, and allow you to record directly to a mini dvd disk.

 

Sforsyth

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Thanks alot for your replys, damn now I will need to get a FIrewire card aswell !
 

tuongo

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I have the Canon Elura 100 and I'm quite happy with it. I used this site (camcorderinfo.com) a lot when I was doing my research. I forget why I chose miniDV format over recording direct to a dvd, but I'm very happy with my decision. I think one of the reasons why mini DVD is only 30 mins of recording time. The media may be expensive too. I think the industry is transitioning to mini DVD, but from what I remember, it'll be at least 3 years before it's mainstream enough for me. So I figured by then I'll be ready to upgrade anyway But do the research for yourself - sometimes I confuse and forget facts.
 

Sforsyth

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OK thanks alot I'm having a baby in Sept. and wanted to be able to make DVD's of the new baby and send them out to people, yeah I don't want to spend that much on a DVD type one right now.
 

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Just to add additional comfort - MiniDV still records a higher bit rate that hard drive cameras (consumer range) and DVD cameras. My sister was looking for a camera and I had to spend days convincing her of this, I ended up helping her get a Panasonic GS300 - for under $500. IMO this is the best camera in this price range (but it is being phased out).

To answer your original question, most MiniDV cameras come with firewire, which is the connection of choice over USB. It'll be worth it to get that card.

Also a suggestion: try to get a camera with good low light capabilities (Nightvision stuff won't help you). What people don't realize is when you're shooting indoors with interior lighting, this can often fall in the "low light" range and you'll want something that can produce good contrast/colors with less light.
 

Sforsyth

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ok I will keep that in mind but I think I will just get the cheapest one I can find because money is really tight and I don't work.
 

craftech

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If money is tight I would suggest you keep the Hi8 camera as it is likely of much higher quality than most inexpensive (under $800) miniDV cameras especially if it is really old.

The problem comes in the dub. If you are looking to make DVDs wait until you can afford a much better camera. If not you will get your best quality by connecting the camera straight to a television and playing it direct. I do videography for a living.

When the industry went to DV they almost immediately began cheapening the cameras to take advantage of an unsuspecting public. Because the "generation loss" inherent in analog cameras like yours is not as significant in DV the first thing they did was to reduce the size of the CCD (like a lens) to cut costs. "The public won't even notice".......which most didn't. Your camera probably has a 1/4 CCD. You won't find a 1/4 CCD in any DV camera less than $1000 now. Back then 1/4 CCD was considered too little. Not enough light would be let in. Now 1/4 CCD is like gold. 1/6 and 1/5 is more common.

Then they decided, :eek:K, we fooled them so let's eliminate little wheels and buttons and knobs. Let them fish through endless menus to do simple tasks. In it's place we'll put a whole bunch of useless "features and special effects" they'll never use all found in buried menus. For extra cost we'll put in manual focus, but not of course a little focus wheel, No, we'll make the 4-way paddle operate the focus and every other damned thing. Then we'll give them a steady shot feature, but we'll make it cut out suddenly when the light drops to a level the 1/5 CCD can't handle so it will serve as a "sales feature" that is useless.

Now let's get rid of those expensive side loading tape cassette doors and put them on the bottom where it's cheaper o manufacture. Too bad if they have the camera mounted on a tripod because it is so light weight it can't be held still and the steady shot isn't working because the light is a little low because of the puny size CCD we put in there because they wouldn't know any better. Yes, the tripod won't save you. You will have to remove the camera from the tripod to change tapes because it was cheaper to put the loading door on the bottom of the camera.

John