i need help - failing prime95 torture test

[calam63]

I have a

Asus K8V SE Deluxe
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Newcastle
OCZ Enhanced Latency Series 512MB PC3200 Platinum Edition
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS
PNY Geforce4 Ti4200

I run the torture test and a Hardware failure was detected. CPU temperature is 50C at load and MB temperature is 42C. Thanks all for helping. Been getting random BSOD lately too.

 

[ROcHE]

Your next step should be to test you ram using Memtest86.

 

[calam63]

how long should i run metest for? - i ran it for an hour last night - it was okay - i know some peope runit for 24 hrs or so - any suggestions?

edit: hmm booted into xp and device driver error - but it doens't look like anything is wrong when i look in device manager

edit2: 30 mins in and memtest shows some errors in test 3 - bottom of the screen still says 0 errors - which one should i be afraid of?

 

[calam63]

bump - should i up ddr voltage? lower latencies? get mobo approved ram?

just checked memtest - its in its 4th pass and 3 errors (40 something minutes)

is that good i know errors aren't good but i don't know - i might just rma memory and get kingston

 

[DarkKnight]

just RMA it, same thing happened with one of my old HyperX modules, I had newegg send me a replacement and no errors since

 

[calam63]

yeah it was bad memory - switched in my pc2700 no erros - and bsod free since - running folding in the background

going to go get some kingston listed on asus website

 

[ROcHE]

 

[Rahabib]

I just ran the test as well and came up with errors. I have been having problems playing HL and UT2004, where the game would crash (not windows), get GPF in games (not in windows... yet) or my personal favorite, the computer reboots itself.

However, I ran DocMem diagnosis and found no errors. I recently upgraded my CPU to a 3200+ Barton from a 2500+. I heard it might be the PSU but I put in another PSU that ran fine before and it still came up with errors in Prime95.

Ran MDM5 temps all look good, no more than 45 or so. I get Core 0 and Core 1 warnings when I go up to 1.70 but in Asus monitor they seem ok. Besides I put in a stable 420w and I still get warnings so I think its just extra sensitive, unless the MOBO is not regulating the voltage correctly. +3.3, +5, +12 never give me warnings in either probe, which is why I think its just the MDM5 being wierd with Core sensors.

The question is, could it be the Ram still, Motherboard, or CPU? what should I do next?

My Goods:
WinXP Pro all updated.
A7N8X-D > 2.0 bios all up to date.
AMD XP 3200+
Kingston DDR 400 (Value) [worked with the 2500+]
Radeon 9800 Pro 256
SoundCard - onboard.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Rahabib
I just ran the test as well and came up with errors. I have been having problems playing HL and UT2004, where the game would crash (not windows), get GPF in games (not in windows... yet) or my personal favorite, the computer reboots itself.

However, I ran DocMem diagnosis and found no errors. I recently upgraded my CPU to a 3200+ Barton from a 2500+. I heard it might be the PSU but I put in another PSU that ran fine before and it still came up with errors in Prime95.

Ran MDM5 temps all look good, no more than 45 or so. I get Core 0 and Core 1 warnings when I go up to 1.70 but in Asus monitor they seem ok. Besides I put in a stable 420w and I still get warnings so I think its just extra sensitive, unless the MOBO is not regulating the voltage correctly. +3.3, +5, +12 never give me warnings in either probe, which is why I think its just the MDM5 being wierd with Core sensors.

The question is, could it be the Ram still, Motherboard, or CPU? what should I do next?

My Goods:
WinXP Pro all updated.
A7N8X-D > 2.0 bios all up to date.
AMD XP 3200+
Kingston DDR 400 (Value) [worked with the 2500+]
Radeon 9800 Pro 256
SoundCard - onboard.

If memtest86 is failing (run the FULL tests, not the default ones -- you have to go in and change it once it starts up), you almost certainly have bad RAM (or you've overclocked your system too far, but it doesn't sound like you're OCing). It could also be the motherboard, but there's no way to tell other than trying it with RAM that you know is good. I find it unlikely that it's your CPU -- try the first Prime95 torture test (the one that 'tests very little RAM'); if you pass that, your CPU is probably OK.

 

[Rahabib]

Thanks, I downloaded memtest86 and will try it tonight. I did do the Prime95 little Ram test last night (forgot to add that in my post) for 5 hours and it didnt return any errors, so it probably isnt that.

with DocMem I ran the full diagnosis but not the burn in. I heard from the systems people here at my work that DocMem was better but they really dont know what they are talking about. Often I end up helping them .

Anyway, thanks again for your help. Ill give it a whirl tonight and keep you posted.

 

[JBT]

Give the RAM more Voltage alot of these newer sticks like atleast 2.7 and 2.8 to be safe.

 

[Rahabib]

Ok. Ran MemTest86+ for about 6 hours doing "All Tests", and found nothing. Its starting to look like its my motherboard to me but I cant be certain yet. The computer ran fine until I put the new CPU in and got a new case with a new PSU. I already put back in my old PSU, and watched the temps, even have had the side off during all of this so it shouldn't have anything to do with the new case. When I got all of this stuff I even reformatted my HDD and did a fresh install of Windows.

I have to admit that I dont know much about tweeking the voltage or timings of RAM (Its obvious this isnt a OC problem ). If you can tell me how to do it Ill set my RAM voltage to 2.7 and see if that works as well. I have 2 dimms, 512 each Kingston Value DDR400 for a total of 1Gig of Ram. Dont know if that helps anyone.

I think at this point, all I can do is reformat windows, maybe something happened to it. And try putting back in my 2500+ and see if that works. If it doesnt I guess I am left with the motherboard.

This has been a really bad 2 weeks for me.

Thanks for all your help guys. :frown:

 

[Rahabib]

I ran Memtest86 using Probe last time with no problems but I decided to run it again with BIOS - All and it failed the second I started the test. I heard that BIOS - All didnt work with all mobos so I didnt think about it being a problem. But just to be safe I decided to borrow my friends RAM for the day.

Last night I borrowed a friends stick of 266DDR and it passed with flying colors. I am glad it wasnt the Mobo because that would have been a pain in the butt to get RMA'd. So now I just have to go to my local shop and swap memory. I might see if I can use it as credit and get better RAM. This is twice in the last year I have had bad memory. They always seem to work for about 4-5 months and then go bad on me. I am also going to get a UPS, maybe that will help.

Thanks for your help guys.

 

[DarkKnight]

Originally posted by: Rahabib
Thanks, I downloaded memtest86 and will try it tonight. I did do the Prime95 little Ram test last night (forgot to add that in my post) for 5 hours and it didnt return any errors, so it probably isnt that.

with DocMem I ran the full diagnosis but not the burn in. I heard from the systems people here at my work that DocMem was better but they really dont know what they are talking about. Often I end up helping them .

Anyway, thanks again for your help. Ill give it a whirl tonight and keep you posted.

You need to run prime95 for 24hours to see if it is really stable. My system has failed it after 11 hours, so testing 5 hours isnt enough. Also, you should set the test to priority 10 so it will fully stress your cpu. To set it to priority 10 you gotta go into advanced options and enter a special code(it's in the readme file). You can also google to find out how to set priority 10

 

[Rahabib]

I am still doing the Prime95 test as I speak. Its hard to do a 24 hour MemTest or Prime95 because my sister-in-law is staying in the computer room and those fans are loud and have leds on them . I did do a CPU Prime95 test for 8 and a half hours and then the power went out in a storm which really peeved me, but thats longer than the 4-6 hours before I get errors with Blend mode.

With the 266DDR Ram I ran the Pime95 test for 7 hours and no errors but had to turn it off cause it was late and the sister-in-law needs her beauty sleep. I started running it again this morning and so I should get a good 16 hour test in today with the 266DDR. Hopefully it passes or else I am back to trying the CPU test for 16 hours +.

Thanks Dark Knight for the info. I think if it goes 16 hours in Prime95 I think Ill be ok... Maybe in a week when the sis-in-law leaves I can do a better 24 hour MemTest. It will be nice to have my privacy again anyway .

 

[Rahabib]

Definately the RAM. Did a 24 hour test to make sure it works - it does. Now I am looking into a UPS to protect me from this happening again since I think it started the night we had a storm and power problems.

Thanks guys.