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I need a new mouse

This intellimouse was the best mouse i ever used, its just the button on it sort of broke, it register as 2-3 clicks even if i only clicked one.

This microsoft blue optical mouse was a pretty decent replacement, same as intellimouse but lacks the side buttons. The left button broke off after 4 years.

Now that old blue is broken i need a new mouse, ive ascertained through my purchase of a microsoft HABU that i hate laser mice and i hate mice designed for "gamers". If i lift the mouse up to put it elsewhere on the mouse pad the laser actually still tracks this meaning i have to lift it pretty high to avoid movement which gets annoying. Also the on the fly sensitivity settings it came with were "too fast" and "friggin slow" neither work for me. Plus the side buttons now seem to be located only on one side which i also hate. Sorry this is a pretty negative post lol but im not a happy camper right now.

Easy solution? Buy another intellimouse! Great! Except the new intellimouse 3.0 is designed the same frickin was the HABU is with the side buttons on the one side. So i guess my requirements for a new mouse are:

1. Has to be optical

2. Really should have buttons on either side, i dont like how they put 2 on the one side

3. USB

4. Durable

So i guess i have pretty basic requirements, but i have never used or looked at any non microsoft mice so... help me out here guys 🙂 MX518 looked good since its optical but its a gamers mouse and i would probably hate the sensitivity, and the buttons are on one side too.
 
Razer Diamondback.

2 buttons on each side, so you could use the two on the left or use one on each side if you like.

Optical and USB (though its almost impossible to get a rubber ball, PS/2 mouse so I dont know why that would be a problem for you).

Durable, provided you dont whip it around your head like friggin Conan the Barbarian.

You can adjust the speed and acceleration quite nicely with the included software. If you wanna make it like the windows standard, you can do that.
If you want it sluggish like a ball mouse, you can do that too.
 
It really doesn't sound like you were really using "on-the-fly" sensitivity, it sounds like you were just changing the DPI...

As far as your tracking problems with the Habu, what type and color surface are you using? Tracking for my Habu terminates 2 CDs in height on my black glass icemat2, 3 CDs on my brown wooden desk, and I've never really encountered anything worse than that. Have you successfully flashed it to the latest firmware?

And as far a these "gaming" mice go, you can always install the drivers and really fine tune them to your preference. Should you be dead set on using a lower DPI to simulate the mice you're used to, you can always lock it in at 400 or 800dpi instead of 1600 or 2000. One of the great things about the Habu is that you can install the drivers, setup the 5 profiles and save it to the memory located on the mouse, then you can go ahead and uninstall the drivers and use your tuned mouse on any computer as if you have drivers installed without really installing them.

and as far as buttons go, 5 buttons on your old intellimouse vs. the 7 programmable buttons on the Habu? Do you really need a button(s) on both sides of the mouse?
 
Did you install the newest Habu software and firmware? Its the same driver suite that Razer makes for their mice, and is a good way to adjust the sensitivity to suit your needs. The buttons on each side... as shortylickens said the Diamondback is your next best choice.
 
Havent done the firmware thing. It dosent actually get recognized by the software installed.

Also yeah it was the DPI i put up and down to get to either crazy fast or too slow speeds, i used the two buttons on it.

Suppose i could get used to two buttons on one side instead of the other way. Ill give the HABU another try then since i never got the software thing working properly.
 
Yah... to get the software to recognize it you need to do the firmware update. There's an update button on the software, press it and you'll be brought to Razer's site, then just click the banner. You need to update to this software and firmware version, the one that came with the CD is bugged and doesn't work at all.
 
make sure to follow instructions closely/carfully

the worst thing about the Habu for me was to get it flashed and ready to go properly (although the earlier the firmware version the mouse came with, the more trouble you'd have trying to update it, and I had a pretty early version)

I was finally able to get it worked out and now it works just as well as any other mouse, better when you consider it doesn't need drivers to have 99% functionality (I think the only option you don't have is on-the-fly sensitivity which requires installed drivers, you can still set up and lock in your favorite sensitivities and change the DPI thanks to the mouse's internal memory)
 
Couldn't you just buy that mouse you liked on eBay? A search for "intellimouse" turned up several auctions for it, some new in box.
 
Couldn't you just buy that mouse you liked on eBay? A search for "intellimouse" turned up several auctions for it, some new in box.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I had the exact same mouse and I loved it. I got my G5 but sometimes I still wish I had my old microsoft intellimouse optical mouse.
 
Originally posted by: Drexl
Couldn't you just buy that mouse you liked on eBay? A search for "intellimouse" turned up several auctions for it, some new in box.

No one has one of the original intellimouse 3.0's in box brand new. The ones on ebay are black, which is the new one that was released a few months ago.
 
Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: Drexl
Couldn't you just buy that mouse you liked on eBay? A search for "intellimouse" turned up several auctions for it, some new in box.

No one has one of the original intellimouse 3.0's in box brand new. The ones on ebay are black, which is the new one that was released a few months ago.

I thought he wanted the original one. They have the white ones with a gray button on each side.
 
Ok ive updated it. I read about the firmware thing before on another forum, and a 20-25 step solution by someone appeared to solve the problem, so i decided f**k it im not jumping through 25 hoops to get a mouse to work, but bunnyfubbles download link seems to have worked.

I still dont like how when i lift it it will move more than my optical but i need to lift it less because of the sensitivity things, and that on the fly sensitivity thing is great for my RTS games because previously scrolling on some of them was crazy fast.

Can anyone recommend a pad to use with this? I currently use a 7 year old "Emperor battle for dune" pad that is full of water and has floaty things inside it, theres only 3 floaties but they do interfere with both optical/laser signals, and the pads seen better days 😛 Ive got a sheet of paper on top of it right now because the surface is so rough.
 
I haven't gotten into a whole lot of mouse pads, but I do know my black icemat works well with all my mice, liftoff distance is nice and low with all of them. That being said, sticking to a darker (if not black) pad might be your best bet?
 
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I haven't gotten into a whole lot of mouse pads, but I do know my black icemat works well with all my mice, liftoff distance is nice and low with all of them. That being said, sticking to a darker (if not black) pad might be your best bet?

I bought a black steelpad SX, the one thats actually made of metal as the name suggests, ironically not steel, its aluminium but meh, its black at least. Hopefully then i can junk this white sheet of paper, its getting all crumply anyways.
 
Are there any of these gaming mice with a lot of buttons, like 10 or more? I always seem to run short on those. My MX518 works well enough but it only has 7 buttons, of which two are used for the sensitivity adjustment, and most other mice are even worse.
 
I thought the 518 had 8 buttons?

what all do you need the extra buttons for? might be able to help better...

Sorry, I meant 8. I use them for various standard FPS commands (use, reload, objectives window, flashlight/nightvision, etc.). 8 buttons are usually enough, but I don't want to give up the sensitivity slider either.
 
Originally posted by: CP5670
I thought the 518 had 8 buttons?

what all do you need the extra buttons for? might be able to help better...

Sorry, I meant 8. I use them for various standard FPS commands (use, reload, objectives window, flashlight/nightvision, etc.). 8 buttons are usually enough, but I don't want to give up the sensitivity slider either.

and you can't map those functions to the keyboard? usually fps games aren't complex enough to warrant any insane amount of keys or buttons as there usually aren't enough commands to map out...
 
I can, but it's less convenient. 😛 I'm accustomed to using my right hand for some of those things. Some games like the Splinter Cell titles or Far Cry have a bit more than the usual FPS commands.
 
Originally posted by: CP5670
I can, but it's less convenient. 😛 I'm accustomed to using my right hand for some of those things. Some games like the Splinter Cell titles or Far Cry have a bit more than the usual FPS commands.
I have to agree. In Far Cry you need easy access to grenades, binoculars, thermal vision, and (sometimes) the flashlight.
Putting those things right on the mouse is a heck of a lot easier. The accessible keys on the keyboard are already busy with reload, use, crouch, jump and such.

OOPS! Forgot about fire-mode as well. Thats another one I hate having to look for.
 
you don't look for it, you use touch memory...whether or not you use WASD or ESDF you should have easy one-hand access to at least 11 other keys you could map game controls to, and that's not including the space bar or number keys

and I would say Far Cry is far from a good example of a complex FPS...
 
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