I need a new camera...

EyeMWing

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So, my Olympus C4000Z finally met it's maker...

Just a short 45 minutes after it took this photo, I plucked it from my pocket at my girlfriend's indoor soccer game. After I turned it on and set everything up (this means the lens enclosure was at maximum extension), I sat it down on the bleacher row in front of me to wait for something worthy of a shot. Eventually, that moment came. In my haste, it slipped from my hand - smashing against the footwell on the bleacher on it's way to the concrete floor.

From where I was sitting, everything looked okay. So I ducked off the bleachers and scooped it up. Everything wasn't okay. The whole lens assembly was askew. Naturally, I tried to fix it. After all, it should just snap back into place, right? Err, apparently not. Long story short, I did a bit more damage trying to fix it, and ceremoniously chucked it across the parking lot (after fishing out my precious memory card and rechargeable batteries). The parking lot did less damage than the fall did.

I paid $300 refurbished for this camera, which, at the time, was a cool $400. 4.0MP, 3x optical zoom, ultra-small Smartmedia memory, this thing was TEHPWN at the time. Of course, smartmedia died out, never scaling past 128mb, and large body cameras largely went the way of the dinosaur in favor of all kinds of tiny slimline cutesey crap.

So, I need a new camera. The absolute MOST I can pay is $200. I'm not interested in more resolution, but I'd like all the features of the Olympus on my next camera, if not more. My main gripe with this thing is that there is no way to make it responsive. In plain P+S mode, often 2-3 seconds will pass between pretting the button and it taking a picture a it autofocuses, sets the exposure, etc. etc. etc. etc. Even if you manually locked some or all of those things, it still took FOREVER.

I have no qualms about refurbs, either. Or big cameras.

The cameras that I've considered are:
Canon Powershot A430 (4mp, 4x optical zoom, $140 new)
Konica Minolta DiMAGE Z2 (3.9mp, 10x optical, $190 Factory Refurb)
Fujifilm Finepix S5100/S5500 (4.0mp, 10x optical, $199 Factory refurb)

IMO, the Fuji is looking to be the better camera, and will allow me to do things that I wish I could have done with the Olympus but never could (primarily because of it's 3FPS continuous drive, where I was lucky to get .3FPS with the Olympus)

But what do other people think? The powershot may be a slightly better fit for "real life" - but I really don't carry my camera everywhere, and when I do have it, I want things to look decent.

Any other recommendations?
 

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Originally posted by: McGyver
all junks, just get a digital slr.

While I certainly agree with you, I think that might be just a tad out of his price range :p

The only drawback I see with the Fuji is that it uses the tiny little XM cards, and I believe that the only other company that uses those is Olympus. For a card of the same capacity, they're more expensive than either SD or CF. If this doesn't bother you, go for it.

Nate
 

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EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: NTB
Originally posted by: McGyver
all junks, just get a digital slr.

While I certainly agree with you, I think that might be just a tad out of his price range :p

The only drawback I see with the Fuji is that it uses the tiny little XM cards, and I believe that the only other company that uses those is Olympus. For a card of the same size, they're more expensive than either SD or CF. If this doesn't bother you, go for it.

Nate

Yeah, the cards are just about twice as expensive as SD. It bugs me a little, but as far as I'm concerned, I'll buy one 512mb card, stick it in there, and leave it forever. My Olympus survived it's entire lifespan with only a 128mb card... And I only ever ran out of space when other people used my camera without telling me or clearing their crap off it. I should be able to fit at least 150 RAW 4MP images on a 512mb card, right?
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: NTB
Originally posted by: McGyver
all junks, just get a digital slr.

While I certainly agree with you, I think that might be just a tad out of his price range :p

The only drawback I see with the Fuji is that it uses the tiny little XM cards, and I believe that the only other company that uses those is Olympus. For a card of the same size, they're more expensive than either SD or CF. If this doesn't bother you, go for it.

Nate

Yeah, the cards are just about twice as expensive as SD. It bugs me a little, but as far as I'm concerned, I'll buy one 512mb card, stick it in there, and leave it forever. My Olympus survived it's entire lifespan with only a 128mb card... And I only ever ran out of space when other people used my camera without telling me or clearing their crap off it. I should be able to fit at least 150 RAW 4MP images on a 512mb card, right?

Maybe? I don't know I didn't even know that camera could shoot RAW files. Even if it does, I don't know if it compresses them (though I would assume it does), or how good that compression is. The only thing I have to go by is my 8MP Rebel XT. The RAW files from thtat camera are anywhere from 6.5MB to 10MB, occasionally bigger.

Nate
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: venk

Doesnt the Panny use a pretty high end lense?

Well, their higher end cameras use Leica branded lenses, but I'm pretty sure they aren't made by Leica and they just carry the name. If they advertised this one as a Leica lens, I guarantee it'd cost a lot more, but it has IS!

I'd be all over that if I were after a small camera and had shaky hands. But it just doesn't have a few things I'd like to play with - and the extra resolution does nothing for me.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: deejayshakur
canon, cause they're bulletproof. mine anyway.

Just because I smashed the living hell out of one camera doesn't mean I intend to make a repeat performance.

And NEVER talk to me about bulletproof stuff, I spend 4-6hrs/day destroying electronics of every sort. NOTHING is bulletproof (except HP external tape drives)
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: venk

Doesnt the Panny use a pretty high end lense?
Well, their higher end cameras use Leica branded lenses, but I'm pretty sure they aren't made by Leica and they just carry the name. If they advertised this one as a Leica lens, I guarantee it'd cost a lot more, but it has IS!
I'd be all over that if I were after a small camera and had shaky hands. But it just doesn't have a few things I'd like to play with - and the extra resolution does nothing for me.
That lens is Leica-branded. You can see clearly the Lieca "L" logo on the camera front.

ZV
 

NTB

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Now that I think about it, even an uncompressed 4MP picture is going to be in the 11 or 12MB neighborhood, which means you'd be able to fit, say, 35-40, maybe a few more on a 512MB card. If the RAW format is compressed, you're looking at 1/2 to 1/3 the uncompressed size, so I'd say anywhere from 75-90, give or take a few.
 

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I have owned the S5100 and for the money it was a great camera but I wanted to move to a remote unit and found a olympus C750UZ for $125 on the local craigslist....wow what a camera..not as stylish but the remote and tripod give perfec pics..
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: bababooey
I have owned the S5100 and for the money it was a great camera but I wanted to move to a remote unit and found a olympus C750UZ for $125 on the local craigslist....wow what a camera..not as stylish but the remote and tripod give perfec pics..

You don't happen to still have the S5100 lying around, do you?
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: iamtrout
Canon 1Ds MKII

Sell your car for $6500 and buy the 1Ds MKII for effectively ~$200.

I owe $9500 on my car.

You owe that much on a fuckus? baaahahahahaha

You go find another car for $10k that isn't a Cavalier and isn't broken. They don't exist.