I Need a mobile desktop Notebook

Alexk400

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My main need is

1.Discrete graphics card. (8800gts equivalent of laptop card)
2. 4GB memory
3. Cheapest conroe cpu. ( i think there is not dramatic difference in speed between e4300 and e6600).
4. should not heat too much!. :D

Who sells it. Problem with all new laptop is it is expensive. I rather buy a old laptop and add these features. But problem though does the motherboard in the laptop supports it?

Is it better to build a notebook from scratch?.

 

TheStu

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Building a laptop from scratch (I assume you mean a barebones machine that you add the processor to yourself) is a bit of a chore, and sometimes more expensive than buying it prebuilt.

Also, beyond the 4 things you specified, please answer the following:
What size screen are you looking for?
What is your budget?

1.Discrete graphics card. (8800gts equivalent of laptop card)
Bear in mind that the fastest graphics card that I know of that is also DX10 (you specified 8800) is the 8700, but even that isn't that much faster (that I have seen, correct me if I am wrong) than the more widely available 8600GT
2. 4GB memory
Don't bother looking for a machine that actually comes with 4GB of RAM. You can get a kit for around $250 max whereas you can usually expect to cough up double or even quadruple that from most OEMs (HP, Dell, Compaq)
3. Cheapest conroe cpu. ( i think there is not dramatic difference in speed between e4300 and e6600).
Conroe isn't used in laptops, they use Merom (did they change the name again?) instead. Please specify if by cheapest you mean slowest. Also, if you are insisting on the fastest graphics and most RAM, then why bother with getting a cheap CPU?
4. should not heat too much!.
HAHAHAHAHA, nice try. I don't think that you will have much luck with that.

 

Alexk400

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i thought buying dell xps 13.3 and add 7950 GO GTX on it?. Can i do that ? XPS 17" has that card.

All the mobile graphics cards has same size?

I that way i will have less weight to carry.

Heat is fine as long as it does n't melt. I am using mainly as a mobile desktop.

Screen size does n't matter.
 

TheStu

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The XPS1330 only can get the 8400M at most. If you want more oomph, either get a 17" with dual 7950s in SLI, or a 15" with the 8600M GT (or 8700 if you can find it).

The thing is, a lot of the mobile graphics solutions are embedded onto the mainboard, there are some that sortof technically have a separate card, but I dont know if there is any way to know for sure if a system has that.

Again, what is your budget?
 

coupdetat

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Dude, you're gonna need to do some more research. the 7950 is a powerful and hot video card that requires a 17" chassis. Stu's suggestions are good. If money is no object get a 17" machine with either a single or dual 7950. For the best compromise in price/performance/size, get a 15" Dell Vostro with 8600GT.
 

Fraggable

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Originally posted by: Alexk400
i thought buying dell xps 13.3 and add 7950 GO GTX on it?. Can i do that ? XPS 17" has that card.

All the mobile graphics cards has same size?

I that way i will have less weight to carry.

Heat is fine as long as it does n't melt. I am using mainly as a mobile desktop.

Screen size does n't matter.

The features you want are only available in a 17" beast. No mobile GPU can possibly compete with a 8800GTS except MAYBE a 7950GT SLI laptop, and Sager is the only one I've seen with that.

As far as CPUs, the fastest one is the T7600U, which can be OCed to something like 2.6GHz. Technically the T7500 should be close to the E6600 for clock=clock comparison, but FSB speed will slow the T7500 a bit.

4Gb of RAM is no problem, just do it yourself, don't pay Dell $1K for it.

I have read the the Sager 17", I think it's the NP2090? isn't all that bad for heat.

No, the XPS 1330 can't take a Go7950. the GPU+HS itself is probably the size of the whole system.
 

Alexk400

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oh well...by that time i finish my research , everything will be outdated...

How do u compare 8600GT with 7950GT? is it same?
 

TheStu

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The 8600GT is a fairly fast card, but the 7950 will beat the pants off it in most things. The advantages that the 8600 has are: DX10 and hardware level HD decoding... oh and it will run cooler.
 

Fraggable

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Wow that is quite a system. I had no idea something like that existed.

The things I would be cautious about: it only supports 3GB of RAM, so your 4GB requirement is gone. In the past, MXM graphics modules have been very hard to find and VERY expensive when you do find them. I would not count on the mobile 8800 or whatever it ends up being to be compatible with this because it will probably not fit a 15" laptop, and may not be available as a MXM module at all, or may not be available for a long time after it comes out.

Other than that, that's quite an extraordinary system. The ability to use desktop CPUs in it is unusual.
 

Fraggable

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You know this really is a killer deal, on top of being customizable.

With $1K for the laptop plus:

E6600 desktop CPU
2GB DDR2 667MHz
100GB 7200RPM hard drive

= $417

grand total $1417.

That's a lot of power for under $1.5K. It has a 8600M GT GPU which is the best youre going to get with any laptop under $3000.
 

Rockinacoustic

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It sure looks pretty, but if anything goes wrong your out of luck.

Why not just go for an XPS or high end Asus pre-built so your backed that everything works plus a warranty to boot?
 

Fraggable

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Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
It sure looks pretty, but if anything goes wrong your out of luck.

Why not just go for an XPS or high end Asus pre-built so your backed that everything works plus a warranty to boot?

I'm sure the bare system has a warranty.

I'd rather do repairs myself than rely on any manufacturer's complete incompetence, wouldn't you?

Not to mention an XPS 1710 would start above $2000 and you can't get a mobile CPU with that kind of power. It can OC a E6600 to X6800 speeds.
 

Rockinacoustic

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Originally posted by: Fraggable
Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
It sure looks pretty, but if anything goes wrong your out of luck.

Why not just go for an XPS or high end Asus pre-built so your backed that everything works plus a warranty to boot?

I'm sure the bare system has a warranty.

I'd rather do repairs myself than rely on any manufacturer's complete incompetence, wouldn't you?

Not to mention an XPS 1710 would start above $2000 and you can't get a mobile CPU with that kind of power. It can OC a E6600 to X6800 speeds.

Perhaps. But god-forbid something does go wrong I'd rather have them fix it for free than doing it myself while my wallet weeps ;)

It's deffinatley an interesting project, not to mention cost effective. But personally I'd feel safer if my purchase was backed by something more than my own competence. People may bash Dell (amidst other companies), but they stand by their product support and warranties superbly in my experiences.