I need 1.13 TerraBytes of disk space

Monolith

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Ok, I know some of you will think I am nuts but this is what I need to do.
I need a RAID 0 Setup that will give me a total capacity of 1.13 TB(?). I have seen 180GB IDE drives out there. I want to know if there are any larger drives and IDE RAID controllers that can support enough drives (striped) to allow this configuration.
Oh and I have a budget of $1645.00.
Please help ( I am hoping to find a UlatraDMA 133 setup and don't want to go SCSI )
 
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Unless you pack you machine with IDE controllers and several power supplies and 9 160GB hard drives. Eitherway 9 160GB hdds is gonna cost you at least $2600 plus shipping, plus 3 RAID cards, plus a bigass power supply. Your looking at $3000 dollars minimum.
 

splice

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I don't think it is physically possible to do that with IDE RAID . I don't know of an IDE RAID card that will handle 6 or 7 drives.
 

JackBurton

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<< I don't think it is physically possible to do that with IDE RAID . I don't know of an IDE RAID card that will handle 6 or 7 drives. >>


I agree. With one EIDE controller you have two channels with a MAXIMUM of 4 drives this will give you a MAXIMUM of 640GB (4 X 160GB). Now you can add another RAID controller but it isn't going to talk to the first RAID controller to let you add another 4 drives to the already setup RAID 0 configuration. The most you could hope for is 1.280TB using TWO RAID 0 configurations each with 640GB. And with that setup, it is going to cost you WAY more than $1645. Sorry man. If you want to do RAID 0 with a TB+ capacity, you are going to have to go SCSI. And that is MAD money. ;)


And yes, I've already thought about doing this. :)
 

kranky

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What kind of data? If you think it might be compressible, NT (and possibly other later O/Ss) allow you to set compression on the directory level with NTFS. That might save you half the space.
 

Budman

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Just image if you ever get it setup & 1 drive goes bad.!!! :Q

Poof just lost 1.13 terabytes.!!! lol
 

Monolith

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Can't really answer why - but I think Maxattach may have a reasonable Snap NAS solution for my needs. The salesman is going to call me back, but he's quoting me $2,699 for the drives + $800 for other hardware. If this is the best I can do, then i'm going for it. Anyone with any last minute suggestions??
It's not compressed data - it's going to be streaming data via satellite! There is no time for compression.
i'm not worried about the drive going bad because it's only going to be temporary stoage (almost like a large buffer)
 

dowxp

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oro.. there are raid cards that can drive more than 4 hard drives... escalade model #6xxx forgot.. it had 4 channels. besides who said anything about raid? just use them as seperate drives or just span them =\. raid0 on 1 terbyte is rediculous. although... those raid cards can do raid 5.. which is a good option.
 

Vegito

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i got 2.7 terrabyte using seagate baracudda 180gb. 7200rpm isn't that bad when it's on a raid 5 card with 128mb buffer. I used a quad channel x13 device each channel adaptec 364 raid controller.

I looked at massive ide solution, there is a few card that can do it.. the Promise SX6000 can do 6 channel, so 6 x 160 or 180. except when you raid 5 them, which you should, you'll lose a few gb here and there...

Promise PDF

it can also use hot swappable ide drive bay

anothe drive is the adaptec 2400a but it's only 4 channel.. ie 500gb x 4 drive, use 500 as parity and you get 1.5 terrabye.. wait a few year for 500gb drives :)

DO NOT USE NAS !!!

NAS is the biggest mistake

I have a few nas, they're just use for backups now, it's so slow

If you're using NAS for file sharing and copying, good luck, expecially the maxtor units.. they CRASH just look at the FIRMWARE upgrades, I can send you several articles and my personal experience... I have the 160Gb and 320 GB units..


I have seen SCSI NAS but still suffers... ur better off getting a SAN array but thats the 35,000 for 500GB storage crap

thats why I went and got the baracudda 180GBs scsi
 

sirfergy

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I know you can get 320gb hard drives, and win2k supports software raid. you could probably get away with buying 4 of those drives and using them on a standard motherboard.
 

nortexoid

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u HAVE to have these in an array? - why?

this sounds like some super-duper-secretive work u're doing...have u created a successful turring machine? the ultimate AI? a large BASIC program that counts change after choosing how many oranges u wish to purchase from the local fruit market?

coolio.
 

Lucky

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i would NEVER go raid 0 for 6-8 drives. if one goes kapoot, you are MAJORLY screwed. :(
 

baisezmoi

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1.13 TB holy moly... only person i know who needed that much storage space was a friend of a friend who knew a guy ;) who ran a top warez ftp server for some large warez group.
 

BeauJangles

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Just send $10k US unmarked bills to a location which I will disclose to you later. Once I recieve payment I will give you one drive that has 800 tb storage... that's right.... 800 tb!!!! It works with standard IDe controllers. It's an amazing new piece of technology!

lol, imagine if that worked ;) I wish I knew dumb rich people.
 

Armitage

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<< i would NEVER go raid 0 for 6-8 drives. if one goes kapoot, you are MAJORLY screwed. :( >>



Yea, I'll second that.
6 times the expected failure rate of a single drive.
No Thanks
 

Lucky

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<<

<< i would NEVER go raid 0 for 6-8 drives. if one goes kapoot, you are MAJORLY screwed. :( >>



Yea, I'll second that.
6 times the expected failure rate of a single drive.
No Thanks
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Exactly. In fact, I would never go RAID 0 at all, Im in the process of going RAID 1 (mirror) on 2 80 giggers for some semi-critical photos that will be used for my portfolio. I would never trust RAID 0.
 

vash

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At that much size, you would need the speed of fibre channel. There will be no other way to have a reliable system setup that would be fast to use as well. Look into fiber channel -- it'll be expensive, but you get your money's worth.

vash
 

HereThereandEverywhere

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Um, doing your setup with RAID0 is tempting fate, more like tempting fate with a huge searchlight right in his eye...telling him to come crash your huge about of space. Definitely upgrade your RAID type to something else...please...for the sake of 1.13 TB of pure raw space get a different RAID configuration, one of the above suggestions (the post with the Promise PDF) seems better for you.

Good luck anyway.
 

WarCon

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I have been looking and I can't find anything in or anywhere near that price range for 1.17 terrabytes.

Good luck.