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I must say, I am VERY impressed with Windows XP

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I just installed buld 2481, and it feels like a retail release operating system. Been using it since last night, and have had not one single OS or application crash yet. All of my apps work, all of my games work, even Netzero and my sound card work now. ActiveSync even works with my iPAQ.

90% of my hardware was picked up upon install including my scanner and printer. The only things not installed were my CompactFlash/Smartmedia combo USB reader, Hauppage WinTV Model 401, and my Santa Cruz (which is pretty new anyway).

Everything seems nice and smooth. Menus pop up nice and quick, animations look nice, and browsing through the operating system is very easy to handle. I also like how my theme (Luna + Metallic) integrates into Office XP. Nice touch.

All in all, I give it an A, and I'm getting ready to tear down my Win2k install.
 


<< All in all, I give it an A >>



When it encrypts all your mp3s and wmas and videos without asking you, and when it refuses to let you play those files on another box without migrating the licenses first, I'm sure you will give it an A+.
 


<< wow, something based on NT5 recognized your hardware and the menus are pretty.
how profound from our Ace Reporter :frown: >>


What's your point? I said that I liked the operating system and what I've seen so far. Why must you try to patronize things?

I also like the fact this thing boots up much faster and hibernate almost 3 times as quick.
 


<< I can't wait until RC1 in a couple weeks so I can get my hands on this thing! 🙂 >>


That'd be nice, but I'm content with this build. It's just THAT polished 😉
 
2485 seems a bit better.
Good multitasking, very stable works with everything I throw at it.
Gamming rocks.
Getting 2486 later today.
Then when RC1 is released getting that.
 
Last one I tried was 2465. It wasn't too bad (except for activation). As long as the mp3 rumors aren't true (ie, it better not in any way modify my mp3 files when I move them over), then I'll probably pick up a copy of it (well, I'll buy a liscense) when it's released. I've already tried the beta though and don't have an desire to mess with it again until the final version is out.
 
OK.
I'm going to say this one last time

Windows XP does NOTHING with MP3s.

Windows Media Player 8 can not ENCODE Mp3s anymore.
It can play them perfectly fine, and Winamp certainly can.
 
Well, pragmatically speaking, isn't this OS going to be released at a cost of near $500 and up? I got a &quot;pre-order&quot; notice a couple of weeks ago, and the cost of the first level was in the high $400's and the next one was in the high $500's, etc. For that money, it should also say &quot;God bless you&quot; when I sneeze.

Seriously, though, that's a hell of a lot of money for an OS..
 
$500!

I don't think so....

Last I hear WinXP home would be roughly the same as Win98 on it's release, and WinXP pro would be roughly the same as Win2k Pro on it's release.
 
They were probably retail prices since it came to the office. I couldn't find the &quot;pre-order&quot; info on the web site that sent the ad, but I just went to buy.com and they're offering the upgrade for around $225/retail $240 and the stand-alone version for around $435/retail $479. I seem to remember that the more expensive versions were geared for businesses - possibly the costs for servers. Of course, they neglected to mention the upgrade version for home use.:|

So, nebbermind. I can live with $225.. 😉
 


<< All in all, I give it an A, and I'm getting ready to tear down my Win2k install. >>



Mind telling me what system you're running XP on? I'm wondering how my P3 550 256MB RAM will fare in XP...
 
ugh it should be fine.

My K7 550 with 256MB was quite fine under WinXP...it was an older build, but it was plenty fast.

If you can run Win2k you'll be fine for XP, contrary to popular belief XP really doesn't take that much more in the way of system resources.

System Restore takes some, but if you turn off that, WinXP is really quite similar to Win2k.
 


<<

<< All in all, I give it an A, and I'm getting ready to tear down my Win2k install. >>



Mind telling me what system you're running XP on? I'm wondering how my P3 550 256MB RAM will fare in XP... >>


Look in my sig 😉
 


<< ugh it should be fine.

My K7 550 with 256MB was quite fine under WinXP...it was an older build, but it was plenty fast.

If you can run Win2k you'll be fine for XP, contrary to popular belief XP really doesn't take that much more in the way of system resources.

System Restore takes some, but if you turn off that, WinXP is really quite similar to Win2k. >>



Excellent. Thanks for the info. Have you tried playing any games on your rig with XP? If so, are games faster on the XP or Win2k Pro or Win98SE?
 
Tests show that WMA is not much worse or better than Ogg Vorbis. Only difference between them is that WMA is MS's own, proprietary format, while Ogg Vorbis is totally open for anyone who wants to use it.
 
Only difference is that you will be able to play ogg on a LARGE number of hardware mp3 players, set top boxes, mp3-CD players, etc (Because there is no patent and no license fees associated with ogg) while the only players that can support wma will be made by large companies who can afford MS's draconian license fees. The latter group of players will be very much more expensive without offering any extra functionality over ogg, quality or space saving wise.

What's more, Microsoft will make it AN ABSOLUTE FRIGGIN PAIN for you to copy licensed wma's to any other device or computer. ogg has no problems in this respect.

The Ogg Vorbis group just released RC1, and will hit 1.0 and therefore freeze its specs Very Soon Now. In this market uncertainty of Ogg Vorbis, Windows Media, MP3Pro, AAC, among other formats, the choice should be clear: Choose a format with quality at least as good as all others, with space savings at least as good as all others, supported on all OS'es, without any crippled features, without any patent restrictions to encumber development and deployment. That format is Ogg Vorbis. Thank you.
 


<< Only difference is that you will be able to play ogg on a LARGE number of hardware mp3 players, set top boxes, mp3-CD players, etc (Because there is no patent and no license fees associated with ogg) while the only players that can support wma will be made by large companies who can afford MS's draconian license fees. The latter group of players will be very much more expensive without offering any extra functionality over ogg, quality or space saving wise. >>



I really wish you would stop talking BS. First of all - MOST MP3 players already support the WMA format. I don't know how much MS charges, but it certainly isn't as much as you're implying. Secondly, the licensing of WMAs can be turned off. I have ripped WMAs on my main computer and played them on my laptop, my Pocket PC, and a friend's computer without having any license trouble.

You obviously know very little about this stuff, but you still feel the need to talk. Here's some advice: shutup.
 
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