I missed what happened in the first 20 minutes of my meeting because

Exterous

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apparently I have unresolved animosity issues towards one of the attendees. My boss from 8 years ago came in late (so that hasn't changed) to the meeting and sat down. It was a huge shock since it meant he relocated and is now working at one of our customers as opposed to a completely unrelated industry. I'm reasonably sure he didn't see me from the way we were sitting and he ended up leaving early.

So 8 years ago I learned a great deal about duplicity, scapegoating, cowardice, and vicious political infighting because of him. I also learned a great deal about Exchange logging and the unfair advantage it gave me when dealing with his lies and the CIO he brown nosed. I won the 2 month long HR\IT fight but that really only gave me 9 months to find another job. Any prospects of a career at the company were completely shot and my annual review was unlikely to go well as the CIO made her feelings about me quite clear.

So I spent the first 20 minutes of the meeting mostly not paying attention while I looked up his job title, linked in profile and tried to see if this University published a public salary page (They don't). There aren't many things in my history that really bother me. Even if they were terrible or painful they lead to where I am today and I'm happy with the outcome. But this left a larger mark than I realized even if it was part of the path to where I am today. That CIO is probably the only other person I actually know well that would result in a stronger response. I guess I figured that was all behind me. Now I might run into at least one of them in a capacity where I have to interact with them. That would be....interesting.
 

Darwin333

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Obviously he must die. Now if I was to suggest anything, which of course I am not, I'd suggest you take it nice and slow. First you need to find out what he drives. Then you follow him to find out where he lives and from there you can really start to plan. Now I know you are going to want to get really sadistic on his ass but that would be a mistake because it makes the crime seem personal. You want to make it look like a burglary gone wrong or something, bonus points if you can make it look accidental or self-inflicted. Be careful with self-inflicted though, you really need to put a lot of thought into that to make it look right but you are a smart guy so it's definitely doable.
 

Exterous

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Then you follow him to find out where he lives and from there you can really start to plan.

Clearly your stalker skills are sub-par. Many counties\townships\etc let you do a 'property tax' search by name and since his last name isn't "Smith" it should be relatively easy to do a few searches of the counties nearest the Universit-....

Uh....

hmmm....


brb
 

highland145

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Clearly your stalker skills are sub-par. Many counties\townships\etc let you do a 'property tax' search by name and since his last name isn't "Smith" it should be relatively easy to do a few searches of the counties nearest the Universit-....

Uh....

hmmm....


brb
Nice house, Ex.....


;)
 

Ventanni

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apparently I have unresolved animosity issues towards one of the attendees. My boss from 8 years ago came in late (so that hasn't changed) to the meeting and sat down. It was a huge shock since it meant he relocated and is now working at one of our customers as opposed to a completely unrelated industry. I'm reasonably sure he didn't see me from the way we were sitting and he ended up leaving early.

So 8 years ago I learned a great deal about duplicity, scapegoating, cowardice, and vicious political infighting because of him. I also learned a great deal about Exchange logging and the unfair advantage it gave me when dealing with his lies and the CIO he brown nosed. I won the 2 month long HR\IT fight but that really only gave me 9 months to find another job. Any prospects of a career at the company were completely shot and my annual review was unlikely to go well as the CIO made her feelings about me quite clear.

So I spent the first 20 minutes of the meeting mostly not paying attention while I looked up his job title, linked in profile and tried to see if this University published a public salary page (They don't). There aren't many things in my history that really bother me. Even if they were terrible or painful they lead to where I am today and I'm happy with the outcome. But this left a larger mark than I realized even if it was part of the path to where I am today. That CIO is probably the only other person I actually know well that would result in a stronger response. I guess I figured that was all behind me. Now I might run into at least one of them in a capacity where I have to interact with them. That would be....interesting.

C'mon man. The world is not that small to allow one person to bother you. :)

One thing I have learned in the workforce / corporate world is that, yes, there are those that will clearly teach you what duplicity, scapegoating, cowardice, and vicious political infighting is all about. But having run into those individuals many time in my experience climbing the corporate ladder, I can say this; every single one of them was riding on a house of cards. They may be successful in the moment, even appear to out-edge you, but eventually their little game collapses underneath them. Every. Single. Time.

At the end of the day, good ole' honesty, consistency, and quality work always wins out.
 

Darwin333

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Clearly your stalker skills are sub-par. Many counties\townships\etc let you do a 'property tax' search by name and since his last name isn't "Smith" it should be relatively easy to do a few searches of the counties nearest the Universit-....

Uh....

hmmm....


brb

Yeah but that could possibly leave a digital trace or you on a security camera if you have to go to the courthouse to do it. There are many ways to mitigate the digital traces but they will still be able to see someone viewed it if they are so inclined. My way, at least if you are good enough, doesn't leave a trace. Make sure you remove your phone's battery, get a burner if you really need one and when done make sure you destroy the sim card, I prefer thermite, and dispose of the phone in a nice deep body of water.
 

Darwin333

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C'mon man. The world is not that small to allow one person to bother you. :)

One thing I have learned in the workforce / corporate world is that, yes, there are those that will clearly teach you what duplicity, scapegoating, cowardice, and vicious political infighting is all about. But having run into those individuals many time in my experience climbing the corporate ladder, I can say this; every single one of them was riding on a house of cards. They may be successful in the moment, even appear to out-edge you, but eventually their little game collapses underneath them. Every. Single. Time.

At the end of the day, good ole' honesty, consistency, and quality work always wins out.

Yeah but the other way is much faster and far more satisfying.
 
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Exterous

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State school? In S.C., I can look up state employees pay.

Like this...
http://www.admin.sc.gov/accountability-portal/state-salaries

Ah I didn't think of the state websites. The schools I've looked up before have dedicated websites - although sometimes they are a bit cagey with their salaries. I think its because in some states only salary paid by public funds is disclosed so if they get $$$ via grants, private sources etc its not included in the public sources.

C'mon man. The world is not that small to allow one person to bother you. :)

For sure and I've never really had a problem before and I suspect its only those two people who would get this sort of reaction from me.

Yeah but that could possibly leave a digital trace or you on a security camera if you have to go to the courthouse to do it. There are many ways to mitigate the digital traces but they will still be able to see someone viewed it if they are so inclined. My way, at least if you are good enough, doesn't leave a trace. Make sure you remove your phone's battery, get a burner if you really need one and when done make sure you destroy the sim card, I prefer thermite, and dispose of the phone in a nice deep body of water.

Go to the courthouse? What are you like 80? Come on man that stuff is all online ;) Just get a good, no logging VPN and you don't have to worry about all that burner and sim stuff.
 

Darwin333

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Go to the courthouse? What are you like 80? Come on man that stuff is all online ;) Just get a good, no logging VPN and you don't have to worry about all that burner and sim stuff.

You are still going to need the burner when doing recon and the big day. And I've checked, my parish isn't online the bastards.
 

highland145

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Ah I didn't think of the state websites. The schools I've looked up before have dedicated websites - although sometimes they are a bit cagey with their salaries. I think its because in some states only salary paid by public funds is disclosed so if they get $$$ via grants, private sources etc its not included in the public sources.
Yeah, Dabo's salary is $250K Riiiiight.
Go to the courthouse?
He's from Louisiana so...

:D
 

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Yeah but the other way is much faster and far more satisfying.

In the moment, sure. But it'll come at the cost of your well-earned promotion. I've seen countless opportunities for promotion squandered because people's lack of maturity.
 

lxskllr

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In the moment, sure. But it'll come at the cost of your well-earned promotion. I've seen countless opportunities for promotion squandered because people's lack of maturity.
I'm sorry Exterous. Since you killed Dave, I don't think we can justify a promotion. Frankly, we're not sure you're a good fit in our organization
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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C'mon man. The world is not that small to allow one person to bother you. :)

One thing I have learned in the workforce / corporate world is that, yes, there are those that will clearly teach you what duplicity, scapegoating, cowardice, and vicious political infighting is all about. But having run into those individuals many time in my experience climbing the corporate ladder, I can say this; every single one of them was riding on a house of cards. They may be successful in the moment, even appear to out-edge you, but eventually their little game collapses underneath them. Every. Single. Time.

At the end of the day, good ole' honesty, consistency, and quality work always wins out.
You haven't worked for many corporations I see. I used to be just as naive.
 

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C'mon man. The world is not that small to allow one person to bother you. :)

One thing I have learned in the workforce / corporate world is that, yes, there are those that will clearly teach you what duplicity, scapegoating, cowardice, and vicious political infighting is all about. But having run into those individuals many time in my experience climbing the corporate ladder, I can say this; every single one of them was riding on a house of cards. They may be successful in the moment, even appear to out-edge you, but eventually their little game collapses underneath them. Every. Single. Time.

At the end of the day, good ole' honesty, consistency, and quality work always wins out.

Or they become president. One or the other.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Well what happens is these people end up working for universities/government/non profits where incompetence always pays off.
All that's needed is to put the corporation's interests before anything else like decency, human rights and, ethical standards.
 

Darwin333

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In the moment, sure. But it'll come at the cost of your well-earned promotion. I've seen countless opportunities for promotion squandered because people's lack of maturity.

How so? The position will be immediately open versus having to wait for him getting fired. Another win for the "alternative" method.